Need help with Winchester 1892

[bjtraz]

I hope this is the correct forum for this.

I am restoring a family Winchester 1892, and the saddle ring was broken. I got the old staple out (with a Dremel and drill press, not TOO much damage, though), but as inserting the new staple, there is no obvious way to secure it in the gun. The old staple was only half there, and the remaining post was flared by a previous persons attempt to beat it back into gun (I'm assuming).

I'm guessing it must be pressed into the gun somehow, just not sure how, or if I'll be able to do it. Thanks for your help/ideas.

Brian

[twyacht]

If m25, doesn't chime in, give him a PM, others may also chime in, but can you post a pic? Most pics posted here are via photobucket.com

It's free and easy.

Sounds like a great project, I'm sure there's a solution.

[david86440]

Does it look like this one?

[bjtraz]

Yes, see below.

[tombogan03884]

Looks like the staple was flared. Was there in and out movement to the original ? If there was you may need to take a piece of steel about the width of the receiver opening and hammer the staple against it to expand the ends of the pins.
Another way is, if there are drilled recesses in the ends of the pins, get in there with a C-clamp or long handled pliers, place a BB or small steel ball bearing in the recess and squeeze the crap out of it, many tool supply places sell these steel balls for this purpose but they are expensive, you would do best using an old bearing or BB, you can use the same method to shrink a slightly oversize hole.

You could also silver solder it, but you need to use a heat sink and I would never trust it to actually hold the gun.

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[bjtraz]

Looks like the staple was flared. Was there in and out movement to the original ? The original was buggered up pretty good. Actually one post was gone completely, and the other was barely above flush. Just enough to be peened pretty good. If there was you may need to take a piece of steel about the width of the receiver opening and hammer the staple against it to expand the ends of the pins. I thought of that, but was afraid the staple might bend or bow under that much pressure.
Another way is, if there are drilled recesses in the ends of the pins, get in there with a C-clamp or long handled pliers, place a BB or small steel ball bearing in the recess and squeeze the crap out of it, many tool supply places sell these steel balls for this purpose but they are expensive, you would do best using an old bearing or BB, you can use the same method to shrink a slightly oversize hole.

You could also silver solder it, but you need to use a heat sink and I would never trust it to actually hold the gun. Not looking ever to use it, other than aesthetically.

[tombogan03884]

Silver solder would be your best bet  then.

[PegLeg45]

Never fooled with one, but from the looks of the pics, it was most likely swaged or staked in like a 1911 front sight. I wouldn't trust silver solder 100%, but if you're not too rough and dependent on it, it is pretty strong. Most shotgun ribs are held on with it.
If you are not comfortable trying something like that, any competent gunsmith should be able to handle the chore.