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[r_w]

It is legal to manufacture grain alcohol (like ethanol) to be used as fuel. The process is basically the same as making shine. The big difference is the amount of sugar present in the original source material (like corn, sugar beets, etc) and whether you have to add it or not.

You need to denature it (make it poisonous) so it is not whiskey but rubbing alcohol. 

But you are still playing with our favorite convenience store (ATF) so get your ducks in a row, don't turn your back, and don't pick up the soap.

[tombogan03884]

After many readers requested information about home-distilling I decided to write to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) asking how one can legally make whiskey for personal use.  I figured that it required extensive red-tape and paying taxes on the production.  I discovered that it is illegal to make liquor at home under any circumstances:

    26 U.S.C. 5178(a)(1)(B):  No distilled spirits plant for the production of distilled spirits shall be located in any dwelling house, in any shed, yard, or inclosure connected with any dwelling house, or on board any vessel or boat, or on premises where beer or wine is made or produced, or liquors of any description are retailed, or on premises where any other business is carried on (except when authorized under subsection (b)).

Very similar language can be found in the regulations under 27 CFR 19.131.  This regulation can be accessed through ATF's Web Site. Consider writing your congressman and senators to reduce the tax burden on liquor and to establish reasonable guidelines for personal-use distilling.  It is legal in some parts of the world, such as New Zealand.

http://www.mindspring.com/~mccarthys/whiskey/corn.htm

If I remember correctly when it's working the still is pressurized, there fore it can blow up.
Those sound similar to the regulations on "Pressure vessels".

[TAB]

There is a documentry called " the last one"  I'd highly recomend you guys watch it if your intrested in moon shine at all.

http://www.suckerpunchpictures.com/last_one_popcorn_sutton.html


It plays on the documentry channel every once and awhile. it was also on you tube for a bit.



it should be noted that the guy in the flim commited sucide right before going back to the federal pen for making moon shine.  it would have been his 3 or 4 time in.

[PegLeg45]

You need to denature it (make it poisonous) so it is not whiskey but rubbing alcohol.  

But you are still playing with our favorite convenience store (ATF) so get your ducks in a row, don't turn your back, and don't pick up the soap.

Yes.....You have to take the ethanol one more step to make it undrinkable for industrial/fuel use to be considered legal (usually by adding methanol to the the ethanol) but it will burn in a motor in the drinkable stage.

Just for reference: There are different bases for different types of alcohol. There are mainly three base types that are the most common used: Ethanol (grain-based), methanol (wood-based), and Isopropyl (rubbing, water-propene/propyline based).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol

"Grain alcohol" redirects here. It is not to be confused with Neutral grain spirit.
Ethanol, also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol, grain alcohol, or drinking alcohol, is a volatile, flammable, colorless liquid. It is a powerful psychoactive drug and one of the oldest recreational drugs. Best known as the type of alcohol found in alcoholic beverages, it is also used in thermometers, as a solvent, and as an alcohol fuel. In common usage, it is often referred to simply as alcohol or spirits.

Ethanol is a straight-chain alcohol, and its molecular formula is C2H5OH. Its empirical formula is C2H6O. An alternative notation is CH3–CH2–OH, which indicates that the carbon of a methyl group (CH3–) is attached to the carbon of a methylene group (–CH2–), which is attached to the oxygen of a hydroxyl group (–OH). It is a constitutional isomer of dimethyl ether. Ethanol is often abbreviated as EtOH, using the common organic chemistry notation of representing the ethyl group (C2H5) with Et.

The fermentation of sugar into ethanol is one of the earliest organic reactions employed by humanity. The intoxicating effects of ethanol consumption have been known since ancient times. In modern times, ethanol intended for industrial use is also produced from by-products of petroleum refining.[2]

Ethanol has widespread use as a solvent of substances intended for human contact or consumption, including scents, flavorings, colorings, and medicines. In chemistry, it is both an essential solvent and a feedstock for the synthesis of other products. It has a long history as a fuel for heat and light, and more recently as a fuel for internal combustion engines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol

Methanol, also known as methyl alcohol, wood alcohol, wood naphtha or wood spirits, is a chemical with formula CH3OH (often abbreviated MeOH). It is the simplest alcohol, and is a light, volatile, colorless, flammable, liquid with a distinctive odor that is very similar to but slightly sweeter than ethanol (drinking alcohol).[3] At room temperature it is a polar liquid and is used as an antifreeze, solvent, fuel, and as a denaturant for ethanol. It is also used for producing biodiesel via transesterification reaction.

Methanol is produced naturally in the anaerobic metabolism of many varieties of bacteria, and is ubiquitous in the environment. As a result, there is a small fraction of methanol vapor in the atmosphere. Over the course of several days, atmospheric methanol is oxidized with the help of sunlight to carbon dioxide and water.

Methanol burns in air forming carbon dioxide and water:

    2 CH3OH + 3 O2 → 2 CO2 + 4 H2O

A methanol flame is almost colorless in bright sunlight.

Because of its toxic properties, methanol is frequently used as a denaturant additive for ethanol manufactured for industrial uses — this addition of methanol exempts industrial ethanol from liquor excise taxation. Methanol is often called wood alcohol because it was once produced chiefly as a byproduct of the destructive distillation of wood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

Isopropyl alcohol is produced by combining water and propene.[3] There are two processes for achieving this: indirect hydration via the sulfuric acid process, and direct hydration. The former process, which can use low-quality propene, predominates in the USA while the latter process, which requires high-purity propene, is more commonly used in Europe. These processes give predominantly isopropyl alcohol rather than 1-propanol because the addition of water or sulfuric acid to propene follows Markovnikov's rule.

The indirect process reacts propene with sulfuric acid to form a mixture of sulfate esters. Subsequent hydrolysis of these esters produces isopropyl alcohol. Direct hydration reacts propene and water, either in gas or liquid phases, at high pressures in the presence of solid or supported acidic catalysts. Both processes require that the isopropyl alcohol be separated from water and other by-products by distillation. Isopropyl alcohol and water form an azeotrope and simple distillation gives a material which is 87.9% by weight isopropyl alcohol and 12.1% by weight water.[4] Pure (anhydrous) isopropyl alcohol is made by azeotropic distillation of the "wet" isopropyl alcohol using either diisopropyl ether or cyclohexane as azeotroping agents.

[ratcatcher55]

You need to denature it (make it poisonous) so it is not whiskey but rubbing alcohol. 

But you are still playing with our favorite convenience store (ATF) so get your ducks in a row, don't turn your back, and don't pick up the soap.

RW fails his chemistry exam.

Rubbing alcohol is isopropal alchohol, not methanol..

Odd number  BAD for you CH3OH (Methyl Alcohol) C3H7OH, Isopropanol or rubbing alcohol
Even number GOOD for You C2H5OH (Ethyl Alcohol)

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