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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 11:21:59 AM »
Trying to depress the Christmas Tree Industry would only happen when a Muslim named Barry Soetoro was in the WH. G2G

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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 12:46:59 PM »
Trying to depress the Christmas Tree Industry would only happen when a Muslim named Barry Soetoro was in the WH. G2G

It isn't meant to and won't depress the live Christmas tree industry.  It is a fifteen cent per tree fee that will pay for marketing the live tree industry.
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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 01:00:09 PM »
It isn't meant to and won't depress the live Christmas tree industry.  It is a fifteen cent per tree fee that will pay for marketing the live tree industry.

The question is why? Why does the government need to collect this tax. (It IS a tax) To pay for marketing of live Christmas trees. Keep in mind that this is the same government who will sue people for putting up nativity scenes. While this is pretty minor, it just seems really out of the blue, and with this regime, I wonder if that was really the purpose of the tax.
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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 03:43:55 PM »
It's the Lib/Progressive Play: TAX & SPEND.... That's all they know.


Acting Administrator Shipman had the temerity to say the 15-cent mandatory Christmas tree fee “is not a tax nor does it yield revenue for the Federal government” (76 CFR 69102).  The Federal government mandates that the Christmas tree sellers pay the 15-cents per tree, whether they want to or not.  The Federal government directs that the revenue generated by the 15-cent fee goes to the Board appointed by the Secretary of Agriculture to carry out the Christmas tree program established by the Secretary of Agriculture.
Mr. President, that’s a new 15-cent tax to pay for a Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.

Nobody is saying President Obama doesn’t have authority to impose his new Christmas Tree Tax — his Administration cites the Commodity Promotion, Research and Information Act of 1996. Just because the Obama Administration has the legal power to impose its Christmas Tree Tax doesn’t mean it should do so.

The economy is barely growing and nine percent of the American people have no jobs.  Is a new tax on Christmas trees the best President Obama can do?


And, by the way, the American Christmas tree has a great image that doesn’t need any help from the government.


http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/08/obama-couldnt-wait-his-new-christmas-tree-tax/

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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 04:10:14 PM »
The question is why? Why does the government need to collect this tax. (It IS a tax) To pay for marketing of live Christmas trees. Keep in mind that this is the same government who will sue people for putting up nativity scenes. While this is pretty minor, it just seems really out of the blue, and with this regime, I wonder if that was really the purpose of the tax.

You have to have been a farmer to really understand this process and how the feds get involved.  It is a matter where there are thousands of producers in an industry.  However, there is no cash pot to develop a marketing program.  Some producers will pay, but the majority will benefit from the few that pay the way.  Soon the few go to the feds to find a way to force all to help, and pretty soon the government collects and regulates the funds.

As I said before, this is done in pork, beef, egg, corn, soybean, oat, wheat and other commodities.  It is these programs funded by mandatory participation that brought us "Pork - The other white meat", "Beef - It's whats for dinner", and "Milk, It does a body good".

Read my earlier rants, and you will understand both how it happens and how I feel about it.
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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 04:29:04 PM »
Can any one here, besides M58, say "Pittman / Robertson" ?
Same deal.



The Pittman-Robertson Act (Section 4181), federal excise taxes on firearms and ammunition could be eliminated. Since 1937, these taxes have pumped over $5 billion into conservation, wildlife management and hunter safety programs. "In 2007, the firearms and ammunition industry contributed a total of $303.2 million in excise taxes, up 21.2 percent from the $250.1 million in 2006." (NSSF press release June 23, 2008)

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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2011, 05:19:07 PM »
Not at all the same thing, Tom. P-R is a legislatively passed excise tax. The proposed tree "tax" is an administratively mandated (well, it was mandated at one point, now it's moot - for the moment anyhow) fee imposed by some wanker in bho' administration and shuffled around to some as-yet unnamed board to dole out. M58 is right, we do have those fees on a lot of commodities, and individually, they don't add up to much. As an aggregate, though, they add up to some serious cash.

Here's how it works: When I bought my pairs (cow plus calf), I paid $1 for every cow and every calf. When I sold the calves to market, I paid another $1 for each calf. When I sold the cows - another $1 each. Assuming the producer who sent the pairs to the sale barn also paid the $1 per, that's starting to add up, all so Sam Elliott can intone - "Beef - it's what's for dinner!". I'm sure there are a lot of .gov bureaucrats who have to be paid as well to "manage" the money collected and distributed.

BTW, want to opt out? No can do, chum, the fix is in. The only way around that is private sales and that is a tough go, labor intensive and not always successful.
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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2011, 05:37:46 PM »
Has anyone else considered the inflationary "cost" to literally all food products? Milk Does A Body Good,...how much more is it than two years ago? Same Beef, Pork, Coffee, Sugar, Poultry.

Heck, Turkey is up 22% alone. Where's the Thanksgiving Promo Tax for the bird? Raise it some more...Geez...

Read This.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/these-are-the-11-foods-making-your-thanksgiving-dinner-more-expensive/

Your Thanksgiving Dinner has gone up folks....Just like everything else....

This is a sham. The gov't does not need to "promote" a freakin Christmas Tree.

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Re: BHO To Bypass Congress Again,...Christmas Tree Tax. No,..Really...
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 03:34:47 AM »
There is no scripture that talks about Christmas trees, so I can't point to it. I can, however, point to the fact that the govt takes every opportunity to bash anything Christian and promote atheism or anything that's just plain anti-Christian, and ALWAYS point out that Christmas is a Christian holiday. But then they have the gall to propose a Christmas tree tax?
Good thing I don't look to the bible for everything I have because you can't point to scripture that talks about 1911s either- but I have one.


I'm not arguing with you.  I'm just trying to point out that a Christmas tree tax doesn't stop anyone from celebrating Christ.  I only brought up the Bible because it would seem to be the instruction book for Christians.

As to the 1911, when the Good Book says to pack a sword, I read that to include technological advancements.   ;D

 

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