Hey Dumby! Don't vote!...

[GASPASSERDELUXE]

Like in the movie "Starship Troopers" if you want to vote the it is  NATIONAL SERVICE of some sort, not not necasarally the military.

[Solus]

So now we are excluding another segment of our society - those who rent.  First we said you must have worked... but on second thought we'll let that slide as long as you have a house in your name.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound flippant, but don't you see how unworkable this approach would be.  And the primary target appears to be people "on the dole."  Would this disqualify them from voting on ANY issue - even those that do not involve entitlement programs?  Would we allow them to vote on local issues but not elected offices?  Possibly only local issues that do not involve funding?  Or maybe only elected offices that have no jurisdiction over entitlement programs?  Or maybe... we could go on and on.

Can you imagine the bureaucracy involved in administering this?  I thought we wanted smaller government.

Well, the folks on the dole can vote on any issue that does not involve entitlement programs or any office holder who can influence them.  That includes any tax issue since, again, they are voting to spend your money if they are not paying taxes.

The real solution is to just eliminate the "dole".  The government has no business supporting folks with your money.  If you choose to support them you can donate to local charities that do the kind of job you like.

The other part is to get government out of doing anything except what is required and allowed by the Constitution.  That would eliminate the problem with government workers.  They would be a small percentage of the population.  That would require major reworking of how the Commerce Clause is handled too.

But until the ones who the government trough aren't voting in those office holders who dump your money into it, that can't be fixed.

As I posted before, limiting the vote by any requirements stinks....until you smell the manure pile not doing so has allowed to ripen.

Voters are the problem.  No amount of discussion, debate or facts would have convinced that woman who believed Obama was going to pay for her rent and gas to change her vote.

Until there is no dole, the only way to make things better is to change the voting.  Unless we shoot them.

[JLawson]

Practicing for a new career in MSM journalism - today's lesson is "Taking things out of context."

Voters are the problem... the only way to make things better is to... shoot them.

 

[tombogan03884]

Well, the folks on the dole can vote on any issue that does not involve entitlement programs or any office holder who can influence them.  That includes any tax issue since, again, they are voting to spend your money if they are not paying taxes.

The real solution is to just eliminate the "dole".  The government has no business supporting folks with your money.  If you choose to support them you can donate to local charities that do the kind of job you like.

The other part is to get government out of doing anything except what is required and allowed by the Constitution.  That would eliminate the problem with government workers.  They would be a small percentage of the population.  That would require major reworking of how the Commerce Clause is handled too.

But until the ones who the government trough aren't voting in those office holders who dump your money into it, that can't be fixed.

As I posted before, limiting the vote by any requirements stinks....until you smell the manure pile not doing so has allowed to ripen.

Voters are the problem.  No amount of discussion, debate or facts would have convinced that woman who believed Obama was going to pay for her rent and gas to change her vote.

Until there is no dole, the only way to make things better is to change the voting.  Unless we shoot them.

If you pay taxes you vote.
If you do not pay taxes we don't care what you think.
No need to complicate it with exceptions, that's the kind of BS that gave us the current tax code.
That woman most likely would not have been voting.

Like in the movie "Starship Troopers" if you want to vote the it is  NATIONAL SERVICE of some sort, not not necasarally the military.

That doesn't work. John Murtha , John McCain, and Charlie Wrangel all had excellent military records.
All 3 are f*cking scumbags as politicians.

[JC5123]

If you pay taxes you vote.
If you do not pay taxes we don't care what you think.
No need to complicate it with exceptions, that's the kind of BS that gave us the current tax code.
That woman most likely would not have been voting.

That doesn't work. John Murtha , John McCain, and Charlie Wrangel all had excellent military records.
All 3 are f*cking scumbags as politicians.

I think you could simplify it and satisfy JLawson and myself by saying that if you are receiving ANY form of government assistance, you don't vote. This covers the housewife who chooses to stay home and raise and educate her children since she married smart and has a husband that can support such a lifestyle. Also, if we actually ever fixed the socio-economic  problems in this country, a stay at home mom will probably become much more prominent.

We may be discussing an individual that pays no taxes, but is still part of a household that takes no assistance, and is paying more than their fair share.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

If you pay taxes you vote.
If you do not pay taxes we don't care what you think.
No need to complicate it with exceptions, that's the kind of BS that gave us the current tax code.
That woman most likely would not have been voting.

That doesn't work. John Murtha , John McCain, and Charlie Wrangel all had excellent military records.
All 3 are f*cking scumbags as politicians.

Without knowing how many military folks voted for them, we don't know if the the service voting restriction would have prevented them from gaining office.   It sure wouldn't have prevented those 3 from voting, but it might have prevented them from getting elected.