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Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« on: January 11, 2013, 03:18:18 PM »
Not one more inch . If you are not prepared to go all the way in defense of your rights you are either an idiot, or a coward .

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/white-house-obama-not-backing-down-assault-weapons-190730430.html

The White House says President Barack Obama is still committed to persuading Congress to ban some semi-automatic weapons, despite comments from the vice president that suggested he and Obama would instead embrace more politically popular gun reforms.

"The president has been clear that Congress should reinstate the assault weapons ban and that avoiding this issue just because it's been politically difficult in the past is not an option," Matt Lehrich, a spokesman for Obama, told Yahoo News.

Vice President Joe Biden told reporters on Thursday that he will issue a plan to the president next week to address the nation's gun violence problem. Though both Biden and Obama have voiced their support for an assault weapons ban, Biden didn't mention it on Thursday, instead focusing on proposals to close a loophole that allows gun buyers to forgo background checks and a bill to limit the size of ammunition magazines to 10 bullets. Biden also noted that many senators are opposed to a ban but are more receptive to magazine limits, according to the New York Times.

Any assault weapons ban would most likely face a tough road in Congress. President Bill Cinton, who pushed an assault weapons ban through a majority Democratic Congress in 1994, said later that the ban fueled a Republican comeback, with the party winning back the House and Senate for the first time in 40 years in the next election cycle.

Attitudes about assault weapons and gun control have also changed since the '90s: Polling shows that background checks and magazine limits enjoy majority support among the public, while an assault weapons ban does not.

Any one who advocates "reason" and "calm" at this point does not deserve any rights .
NOT ONE STEP BACK !

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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 05:18:33 PM »



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THIS is the straw that will break the camel's back. If they start it, they will wish they hadn't.

Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 09:38:49 AM »
I want to go back.  

For starters I want to go back to 1967, when you could buy a gun at a hardware store.  Back before form 4473 was invinted. When the ATF was just a tax collection agency, when you didn't have to pay a local FFL to buy a gun from  a buddy in another state.  When anything that could be manufactured in the states could also be imported.  

That's just for starters.  Then I want to go even further back to 1933, but that's another time.


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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
Look at the facts from the FBI, and you will note that 1968's laws that removed mail order guns, and the early 80's (can't remember the exact year) when they raised the price of FFL so high that local hardware stores, gas stations, and stores like Penny's, Wards, Sears, Target, etc. dropped their guns had nothing to do with changing guns used in violence.

We have fewer homes with firearms today than 50 years ago, fewer people with firearms than 50 years ago (according to national estimates), and we are not changing anything!

Guns are not the problem!  Violence is the problem!

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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 12:29:57 PM »
Another thing that gets me, is the anti's chosen 'poster gun' for all the hoopla.....the AR-15.
The anti's act like this is some new evil thing in the last 20 years, that has suddenly cropped up and is the cause of all these killings...... all the while not knowing (or caring) that the thing is over 50 years old.
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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
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tombogan03884

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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2013, 01:44:33 PM »
I posted this in the wrong thread earlier  ;D

The clip from "300" is more apt than first appears .
As for Leonidas and the Spartans, it is more important to fight for what you believe than it is to win, or even to survive.
We all die, the only question is will we go with honor, or as a groveling subservient POS.

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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 04:20:30 PM »
I posted this in the wrong thread earlier  ;D

The clip from "300" is more apt than first appears .
As for Leonidas and the Spartans, it is more important to fight for what you believe than it is to win, or even to survive.
We all die, the only question is will we go with honor, or as a groveling subservient POS, OR what kind of example we set for those that follow.

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Re: Obama not backing down from assault weapons ban
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2013, 04:54:23 PM »
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