Author Topic: Missouri AND Minnisota - Democrats Introduce Legislation to Confiscate Firearms  (Read 2866 times)

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http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills131/biltxt/intro/HB0545I.HTM

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=H0241.0.html&session=ls88


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/


Missouri Democrats introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn law-abiding firearm owners into criminals. They will have 90 days to turn in their guns if the legislation is passed.

Dana Loesch Radio reported on the new legislation being pushed by Missouri Democrats:

    Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.

Here’s part of the Democratic proposal in Missouri:

    4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

    (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

    (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

    (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

    5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

UPDATE: It’s not just Missouri…
Minnesota Democrats Introduce Law to Confiscate Guns… Using Same Language as Missouri Democrats


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Minnesota
Democrats are pushing similar legislation using nearly identical language as the Missouri bill.

MN H.F. No. 241, as introduced – 88th Legislative Session (2013-2014) Posted on Jan 31, 2013

    10.20 Sec. 7. PERSONS POSSESSING ASSAULT WEAPONS ON EFFECTIVE DATE
    ACT; REQUIRED ACTIONS.
    Any person who, on February 1, 2013, legally owns or is in possession of an assault weapon has until September 1, 2013, to do any of the following without being subject to
    prosecution under Minnesota Statutes, section 624.7133:

    (1) remove the weapon from the state;

    (2) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction;

    (3) render the weapon permanently inoperable; or

    (4) if eligible, register the weapon as provided in Minnesota Statutes, section 624.7133, subdivision 5.

    EFFECTIVE DATE.This section is effective the day following final enactment.


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There it is M58.
What are you going to do about that ?

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What guns?  I sold them at a gun show to a guy named Bill.  

I honestly don't see this going anywhere in Minnesota.  Yeah, there are some looney whackjobs in Minnecrapolis, but the majority of the congress critters here are from outstate, rural areas.  They know where their bread gets buttered.

What's more concerning is all of the stupid proposed laws trying to alter the current carry laws.  Things like making it a felony to carry in places with a sign.  Currently, the signs hold no weight of law and the business owner must verbally ask you to leave the premesis.  If you refuse, it is a $25 misdemeanor tresspass fine.

1) HF 237, introduced by Representative Michael Paymar (DFL-64B), would create new categories of “prohibited persons” for gun ownership and eliminate your fundamental rights without due process. It would also require “universal background checks” on certain firearm purchases with limited exceptions, add new fees (taxes) for transfers and transferee permits, limit the ability of the permit to carry to function as transferee permit, and create a possible thirty-day waiting period to verify an individual’s identity during the application process for a transferee permit.

2) HF 238, introduced by Representative Jim Davnie (DFL-63A), would make felons out of permit holders if they inadvertently carry on school property and would require forfeiture of the offending individual’s firearms. Currently, the penalty for an honest mistake like this is a misdemeanor.

3) HF 239, introduced by Representative Jim Davnie (DFL-63A), would increase the penalties on permit holders from $25 to $3,000 for a first-time infraction if he or she does not leave an establishment when requested. This has never been a problem in the past and the NRA is unaware of any issues with permit holders disobeying the wishes of private establishments.

4) HF 240, introduced by Representative Dan Schoen (DFL-54A), would add discretionary provisions to transferee and carry permits. HF 240 would require individuals to obtain what is essentially a “doctor’s note” if the issuing officer believes – based only on undefined “past police contacts” – that the applicant is possibly dangerous or mentally ill. The issuing officer would not be required to use the professional evaluation of a medical professional to determine your eligibility for a permit – and could expand the application process indefinitely. In addition, this bill would weaken the appeal process for those denied a permit, and strengthen the ability for law enforcement officers to deny your right to carry by adding a long list of disqualifying factors to the application process. This bill would also ban the issuance of non-resident permits – making it more difficult for friends and family visiting the state of Minnesota to protect themselves and their loved ones.

5) HF 241, introduced by Representative Alice Hausman (DFL-66A) – would ban thousands of commonly owned semi-automatic handguns, rifles and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and has even one "feature" from a list of mostly cosmetic components. It would also ban all detachable-magazine semi-auto pistols that have any of the following: a threaded barrel, second pistol grip, or magazine that mounts anywhere other than the grip. It would ban all semi-automatic rifles and handguns that have fixed magazines that accept more than seven rounds. It would also ban all semi-automatic shotguns that have any of the following: a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; a pistol grip; a fixed magazine that can accept more than seven rounds, a detachable magazine; a forward grip; a revolving cylinder. As with the rifle provision, this could potentially ban the vast majority of semi-auto shotguns, because they have pistol or forward grips. Countless Americans rely on shotguns like these with pistol grips every day for home defense. It would also ban "combinations of parts" from which "assault weapons" can be assembled. Read broadly, this bill could ban the acquisition of a single spare part that could be combined with parts you already own.

HF 241 would require firearm owners to remove the weapon from the state, surrender their legally owned property to a law enforcement agency for destruction, render the weapon permanently inoperable, or if eligible, register the weapon. Those possessing a banned firearm would face felony prosecution for violations. If a firearm was registered, the owner would have to submit to, among a long list of other requirements, visits and inspections from local law enforcement. As such, honest gun owners would be treated like convicted criminals just for obeying the law.

6) HF 242, introduced by Representative Alice Hausman (DFL-66A), would ban millions of standard capacity magazines.

HF 242 would ban the manufacture, import, transfer or possession of “large-capacity magazines.” A large capacity magazine is defined as an ammunition-feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds. Under this bill, there are very limited exceptions that apply to the government, military and certain manufacturers – but not to individual citizens who rely on these commonly owned magazines for self-defense. This bill mandates that 120 days from August 1, 2013, any individual possessing a “large-capacity” magazine in violation of the law would face felony prosecution.

HF 242 would require individuals with magazines over ten rounds to permanently alter the magazine so it cannot accommodate more than ten rounds, remove the large-capacity magazine from the state, or surrender their legally owned property to a law enforcement agency for destruction. Millions of Americans possess magazines that hold more than ten rounds – as they are the standard magazine in the most popular weapons used for self-defense, target shooting and hunting. This policy will only affect the law-abiding, and will have no impact on crime since it will be ignored by criminals like other restrictions.

7) HF 298, introduced by Representative Raymond Dehn (DFL-59B), would overturn Minnesota’s firearm preemption law. Currently, localities cannot enact more restrictive gun laws than current state statute. With this change, localities could enact any ordinance they choose under the guise of public safety – creating a patchwork of anti-gun ordinances throughout the state.
 
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The View From The Missouri Capitol
Half joke, Half national embarrassment!
Right up with State Homeland Security Agency putting out "secret memo" telling Highway Patrol to look out for
Tea Party Terrorists, Gadsden Flag Flyers, NRA members and Radical Military Vets.  (I fit three!)
Chief of Governors Security team told me I thought he would have to profile himself.
I talked to my Mo senate office yesterday.
Senator in charge of all firearms legislation says any anti 2nd Amazement  bills are
"dead, dead, dead"!
None of it will ever get out of committee.
The demo governor is an old acquaintance from law school.
He is a closet conservative.  Always waits till 11 pm on Friday night to sign pro gun laws.
I my Gawd, I Live here! 8)
I used to be open minded but my brain kept falling out.

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The governor is a DINO?
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
—Patrick Henry

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— Daniel Webster

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I think the representatives that presented these bills ought to be singled out by pro-2A groups and immediately begin running a campaign to oust them from their seats! 
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I think the representatives that presented these bills ought to be singled out by pro-2A groups and immediately begin running a campaign to oust them from their seats! 

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I've said it before... I know this won't be the last.

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