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Anyone keep up with HK pistols?
« on: October 28, 2013, 08:17:32 PM »

   I'm a bear of little brain and long lists of variants bother me....which HK FS/compact 9mm/.40" comes ambidextrous (P30?) with the HK 'trigger action' , i.e. NOT DA/SA but light trigger....is that the LEM?

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Re: Anyone keep up with HK pistols?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2013, 01:18:02 PM »
   I'm a bear of little brain and long lists of variants bother me....which HK FS/compact 9mm/.40" comes ambidextrous (P30?) with the HK 'trigger action' , i.e. NOT DA/SA but light trigger....is that the LEM?

Ta veh much....MP

Here is the definition of the LEM Trigger:
The HK Law Enforcement Modification (LEM) trigger system combines the advantages of a cocked striker component (constant level of trigger pull from first to last round fired) with a double-action hammer system. Using such an enhanced trigger system consolidates ease of use and safety into a convenient, innovative trigger operation—one that reduces the chance of unintended firing. And in case of an ammunition-related failure to fire, all that is needed is an additional second or third squeeze of the trigger without the need of first pulling the slide back to re-cock the pistol. The enhanced LEM trigger system combines the reliability of a double action revolver trigger with the crisp trigger of a single action pistol.

The P30 without the LEM: Features include a special grip frame with interchangeable backstrap inserts and lateral plates, allowing the pistol to be individually adapted to any user. Ambidextrous controls include dual slide releases and magazine release levers.

Variants with a conventional double-action/single action trigger have a serrated decocking button located on the rear of the frame. Variants with HK’s enhanced double action only Law Enforcement Modification* (LEM) trigger have no external decocking controls.

USP Variants:

Variant 1:
 Double action/single action with "SAFE” position. Control lever (manual safety/decoking lever) on left side of frame.

Variant 2: 
Double action/single action with "SAFE” position. Control lever (manual safety/decocking lever) on right side of frame.

Variant 3: 
Double action/single action without "SAFE” position. Control lever (decocking lever) on left side of frame.

Variant 4: 
Double action/single action without ”SAFE” position. Control lever (decocking lever) on right side of frame.

Variant 5: 
Double action only with ”SAFE” position. Control lever (manual safety) on left side of frame.

Variant 6: 
Double action only with ”SAFE” position. Control lever (manual safety) on right side of frame.

Variant 7: 
Double action without control lever (no manual safety/decocking lever)

Variant 8: 
Double action without control lever (no manual safety/decocking lever)
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Variant 9: 
Double action/single action with control lever (manual safety/no decocking function) on left side of frame.

Variant 10: 
Double action/single action with control lever (manual safety/no decocking function) on right side of frame.



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Re: Anyone keep up with HK pistols?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 09:28:35 AM »
Be VERY careful to ensure you get what you want.  While WatchManUSA's chart is handy for USP pistols, that chart does not translate across all H&K handguns.  For instance, here is the P2000 variant chart:

V0: CDA (Combat Defense Action) trigger system (SA/DA). Single-action trigger pull of 20 N (4.5 lbf) (+4/-2 N), double-action trigger pull – 51 N (11.5 lbf) (±5 N).
V1: CDA trigger system (LEM). The LEM trigger is a dual-stage trigger that fires from a hammer down position in both SA and DA modes, but has an internal mechanism that is cocked with each cycle of the action. It provides a constant trigger pull of 20 N (4.5 lbf) (+4/-2 N).
V2: CDA trigger system (LEM). Like P2000 V1 but with an increased trigger weight. The trigger pull is 32.5 N (7.3 lbf) (±2.5 N).
V3: SA/DA trigger with a decocking lever mounted at the posterior of the slide to the left of the spurred hammer. Single-action trigger pull of 20 N (4.5 lbf) (+4/-2 N), double-action trigger pull – 51 N (11.5 lbf) (±5 N).
V4: CDA trigger system (LEM). Like P2000 V1 and V2 but with a mid-range trigger pull of 27.5 N (6.2 lbf) (±2.5 N).
V5: Double-action only (DAO) trigger system. Trigger pull of 36 N (8.1 lbf) (±3 N).


The P2000, P2000SK, and 45C are definitely ambi and available with the LEM trigger.  I have no experience with any other H&K pistols.

 

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