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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 05:07:09 PM »
Quote from: deepwater on October 26, 2008, 02:07:21 PM
after seeing him check the gun to make sure it was unloaded, I'm reminded of something a friend once told me. 'never trust a gun, the devil himself loads them when you least expect it' all the more reason to treat it as loaded at ALL times. some people just take longer to learn. :P

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He was shot in the chest at point-blank-range by his best friend with the "unloaded" revolver.
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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 05:27:41 PM »
I have no unloaded firearms in the house, my holster or my car. Even if they're unloaded.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems every 'professional' I know but one  is lax on firearm safety. Not sure if it's the macho factor, the over familiarity factor or the show off factor.  They never check the firearm before trying to hand it to me, never check it after I check it and hand I to them, cover wide swaths of the room with the barrel, etc.

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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 05:36:53 PM »
Quote from: Fatman on October 26, 2008, 05:27:41 PM
I have no unloaded firearms in the house, my holster or my car. Even if they're unloaded.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems every 'professional' I know but one  is lax on firearm safety. Not sure if it's the macho factor, the over familiarity factor or the show off factor.  They never check the firearm before trying to hand it to me, never check it after I check it and hand I to them, cover wide swaths of the room with the barrel, etc.



In my neck of the woods, it seems to be a distinct "lack of training" factor (whether departmental or officer related).
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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 05:55:37 PM »
The kids in the first video were scared when the second gun came out. They all knew he was dangerous. I guess the guy in the second video deserves to be gut shot for giving a loaded gun to a toddler. I never saw that one before. In the third video the suspect almost lost his mind, or his brain. So a man, a kid, and a woman all had guns go boom when they shouldn't. Unfortunately it's very common for gun experts to be lax on safety. Two days ago a salesman at a gun store handed me a pistol without checking it. I figured out for myself how to check it. Not an ideal situation when it's something I never saw before.  :(
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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 10:42:30 PM »
I'll say this for him... atleast he didn't cry and whine like a baby.
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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 11:55:20 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on October 26, 2008, 05:55:37 PM
The kids in the first video were scared when the second gun came out.

Yeah, I'll bet the kids in the first few rows had some "evil" brown stains in the undies after seeing that "evil" black rifle.   :o

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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 02:53:35 PM »
A few years ago an officer shot a downed, apprehended suspect twice in the back with a 9mm after a foot chase.  The office was standing over him with the suspect on the ground on his belly when he silipped in the snowy, icy conditions.  Not sure if he was trying to cuff him or if the suspect struggled or not, but the shooting was unintentional.  After an investigation the officer was NOT charged with anything.  I wasn't there and don't remember the details, but it always kind of stuck with me.  I'm glad the officer was not charged as in this area we have had several charged in officer shootings that i don't think should have been, but this one I always wondered about.
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Re: officer shoots self
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 09:59:07 PM »


He didn't claim it was self-inflicted?  ;D
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