Will Schwarzenegger Sign the Ammo Bill that's On His Desk?

[david86440]

Thanks TAB, the effective date is 2/1/2011.

This bill would, subject to exceptions, commencing February 1,
2011, require handgun ammunition vendors to obtain a thumbprint
and other information from ammunition purchasers, as specified.
A violation of these provisions would be a misdemeanor.
This bill would provide that a person enjoined from engaging
in activity associated with a criminal street gang, as specified,
would be prohibited from having under his or her possession,
custody, or control, any ammunition. Violation of these provisions
would be a misdemeanor.
The bill would prohibit supplying or delivering, as specified,
handgun ammunition to prohibited persons, as described, by
persons or others who know, or by using reasonable care should
know, that the recipient is a person prohibited from possessing
ammunition or a minor prohibited from possessing ammunition,
as specified. Violation of these provisions is a misdemeanor with
specified penalties.
The bill would provide, subject to exceptions, that commencing

[david86440]

I'd bet less then 1% of them even know about this bill.

i'd bet less then 1% of the gun owners would know about this bill if it was federal.

I've been forwarding my NRA alerts to everyone I know out here as the bill has been progressing through Sacramento this year and all I keep hearing is that it will never become law.

 I like the bill's definition of ammunition............

For purposes of this section, “ammunition” shall include,
but not be limited to, any bullet, cartridge, magazine, clip, speed
loader, autoloader, or projectile capable of being fired from a
firearm with deadly consequence. “Ammunition” does not include
blanks.

[TAB]

We have case law that state, all metalic cartarages are hand gun rounds since they make hand guns chambered for all of them.

shot shells are not currently listed as such.

[david86440]

the bill includes mags and speed loaders.

We have case law that state, all metalic cartarages are hand gun rounds since they make hand guns chambered for all of them.

shot shells are not currently listed as such.

Good thing they don't allow The Judge be sold here or it would include .410 shot shells. I guess that's one positive.

[tombogan03884]

the bill includes mags and speed loaders.

Good thing they don't allow The Judge be sold here or it would include .410 shot shells. I guess that's one positive.

Hate to wreck you day, BUT, They do sell the Thompson Center Contender and Encore, Both have available .45/410 barrels. I don't know if the Bond Arms derringer is sold in Ca. but also is available in 410.

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[david86440]

Thanks Tom..........You are such a source of good news. Bond Arms aren't on the CADOJ approved list either.

Hate to wreck you day, BUT, They do sell the Thompson Center Contender and Encore, Both have available .45/410 barrels. I don't know if the Bond Arms derringer is sold in Ca. but also is available in 410.

[TAB]

Hate to wreck you day, BUT, They do sell the Thompson Center Contender and Encore, Both have available .45/410 barrels. I don't know if the Bond Arms derringer is sold in Ca. but also is available in 410.

the way they get around that is the same way they get past the min length for shot gun barrels and min OAL(federal law).   they are chambered in 45colt, they just happen to have a longer chamber that can take 410s.

[tombogan03884]

the way they get around that is the same way they get past the min length for shot gun barrels and min OAL(federal law).   they are chambered in 45colt, they just happen to have a longer chamber that can take 410s.

They also  (at least in the T/C's ) is by using a rifled barrel so technically (with the .45 chambering ) it isn't a shotgun.