NYCPD With Bloomberg OK, Set Up Gun Show Loophole Sting In 3 States

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I agree, I wish they would go after these guys... but sadly they can't use that tape against them.

Logic and the law almost never agree...

[ericire12]

Shouldn't this thread be full of:

"I wish those dealers weren't such idiots!"
and
"I hope the BATF prosecutes those dealers!"



I don't care if it was Bloomberg, the NRA or ACORN that set up the sting, the fact is that they caught unscrupulous dealers who were taking actions that could very well have a very negative impact on all our US.

-RJP

Yes, Rob. And I whole heartily want those guys put behind bars.... However, the purpose of the sting was not to catch people doing this and arrest them (Which would be logical if they really wanted this stopped). Bloomberg is only trying to sensationalize things to get more anti gun legislation passed. His focus is not keeping criminals from buying guns..... he wants to shut down gun shows. Lets not forget who is spearheading this......The man wants Draconian gun laws in place nationwide just like the ones he has in his city.

The laws to stop these illegal transactions are already in place and need to be enforced. If this is going to be stopped, then Bloomberg needs to stop going around trying to dig up videos for YouTube and they need to start formulating a plan to use the manpower and resources available to actually arresting these guys and prosecute them for the federal crimes that they are committing.

See also here:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=9228.msg119214#msg119214

In Bloomberg's own words:

Now, why is the Mayor of New York City investigating gun shows in places like Ohio, Tennessee, and Nevada? Good question. And the answer is: because I have no other choice.

Its not about catching criminals, its about shutting down gun shows.... Thats why its called a "Gun Show loophole" and not a "private sale loophole" or what it really is.... a violation of an already existing federal law.

[tombogan03884]

Shouldn't this thread be full of:

"I wish those dealers weren't such idiots!"
and
"I hope the BATF prosecutes those dealers!"



I don't care if it was Bloomberg, the NRA or ACORN that set up the sting, the fact is that they caught unscrupulous dealers who were taking actions that could very well have a very negative impact on all our US.

-RJP

This thread WOULD be full of those sort of comments if the video were from a trustworthy source.
With out even watching the video I will say that information from Bloomburg is about as reliable as from any other Brady associate.
In other words, not much. (Surprisingly " the Bloomberg Report" is reasonably unbiased, go figure )
As to having a negative impact on US, it is in fact an excellent arguing point FOR US.
 What good are MORE laws when they are not enforcing the ones already on the books ?

[Hazcat]

Shouldn't this thread be full of:

"I wish those dealers weren't such idiots!"
and
"I hope the BATF prosecutes those dealers!"



I don't care if it was Bloomberg, the NRA or ACORN that set up the sting, the fact is that they caught unscrupulous dealers who were taking actions that could very well have a very negative impact on all our US.

-RJP

Rob,  I posted just such a thing in the other thread on this.  The guy that sold 348 SKS in a year and the idiot that says he 'keeps a good inventory' with (my guess) 60 handguns for sale should have been thrown out!

[Clark Kent]

It was a publicity stunt, as is most anything almost any politician does in the public eye. 

Our cause would be better served if gun show organizers policed the shows themselves - maybe hire a security company or off-duty, uniformed police officers to maintain a high profile presence at the event.  Also, let it be known to the vendors that plainclothes security folks will be present.  And invite the local media to the event to see for themselves how well it is policed. 

I've attended shows in Richmond that at times took on the appearance of a gang rally, with clots of men dressed blatantly as gangstas swaggering among the tables, ogling and handling the "baddest" looking pieces they found and leaving no doubt in my mind as to what was in their minds. 

Creating the right perception can go a long way toward winning the battle for public opinion. 

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[fightingquaker13]

It was a publicity stunt, as is most anything almost any politician does in the public eye. 

Our cause would be better served if gun show organizers policed the shows themselves - maybe hire a security company or off-duty, uniformed police officers to maintain a high profile presence at the event.  Also, let it be known to the vendors that plainclothes security folks will be present.  And invite the local media to the event to see for themselves how well it is policed. 

I've attended shows in Richmond that at times took on the appearance of a gang rally, with clots of men dressed blatantly as gangstas swaggering among the tables, ogling and handling the "baddest" looking pieces they found and leaving no doubt in my mind as to what was in their minds. 

Creating the right perception can go a long way toward winning the battle for public opinion. 

You are one hundred percent right here. It's why I get on people here for anything racial. Its about controlling perception. If folks think we are all klansmen, toothless drunken rednecks or gangbangers, we lose. If they see us as their next door neighbor we win. The anti's will never go away or be converted. Screw 'em. What we can do is convince folks in the middle that guns and gunowners are not a problem, so they look at the Brady Bunch as the extremists and not us.
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[ellis4538]

I agree with what you say Rob but didn't Bloombutt and his "Sting" break as many if not more laws than the dealers?  What about prosecuting them?  I wish I new a way to force the subject but I don't.  Also, BATFE shows up at many of these GS and watches over things...why aren't they setting up "Sting" operations?  Why doesn't BB work with them, because like CK said it was a publicity stunt!

JMNSHO

Richard