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Re: WTF!!?? Seriously, W. T. F!!!?????????? <== Yelling!
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2009, 10:21:06 AM »
This is long, and for that I apologise, but it gives much insight.
I was listening to Limbaugh yesterday when this guy called in:


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RUSH: Greg in North Carolina, great to have you on the phone here, sir. Welcome to EIB Network.

CALLER: Hi, Mr. Limbaugh, how are you?

RUSH: Fine, sir.

CALLER: Good. I just wanted to call and kind of give a little more insight on this SEAL team situation. I was in the teams for 20 years. I have multiple-decade military service and came in not long after Vietnam. I also worked for Blackwater for a few years in Iraq and know one of the guys that was killed at Fallujah quite well. But, anyway, the point I'm going to get at here is that I think there's quite a bit of evidence that this is kind of a backwash from the situation of a couple months ago when the SEAL operators rescued Captain Phillips off the coast of Somalia. You may recall that situation.

RUSH: Yes, I do.

CALLER: Well, the truth behind that situation is that the SEAL operators were kept off the scene for well over 36 hours. There was a lot of foot dragging by the commander-in-chief's people in letting them in the theater. After they were in theater and in place they were given a very restrictive ROE: Rules Of Engagement. The ROE was so restrictive that really they couldn't engage their targets. There were two previous opportunities to rescue Captain Phillips, and they were not allowed to take those opportunities.

RUSH: Let me stop you here because people may not know. We're talking Somali pirates. We're talking about the Maersk cargo ship that a bunch of Somali pirates, teenagers, took over. One of them eventually died, and the media credited Obama -- honest to God, folks, the media credited Obama -- with giving the order to pull the trigger. Now you may resume the story, sir.

CALLER: Okay. When they finally did engage the hostiles, they did it liberally interpreting the ROE, and the on-site commander finally was kind of fed up with the situation and gave them a weapons-free command and they were able to engage and rescue Captain Phillips. The fallout from that was immediate and rather violent in its anger. The White House people -- I don't know the president himself, I just know their representatives with the chain of command -- were absolutely livid with this and they did not want the rescue to be conducted in the way that it was. You know, I cannot prove this because I would have to give names and I'm not giving names for obvious reasons. But the bottom line is that on very good, solid inside information, the national command authority past the Pentagon was not happy.

RUSH: So let me cut to the chase here. So what I think I hear you saying is the blowback that you mentioned is, this is payback for the SEALs violating the ROE on this captain of the Maersk; and this is the chain of command reasserting itself, letting everybody know who's boss and what's going to happen to you if you don't follow orders?

CALLER: That is my rather experienced opinion -- and, frankly, the opinion of others. I am very close to the special operations community here in North Carolina, and, you know, that opinion is surfacing. These people are very vindictive -- and you have to understand, Mr. Limbaugh, you're very pro-military, and you always say wonderful things about our people in service, and we greatly appreciate it. But I do have to say this, and I'd like to make this one point. I've had two sons, by the way. My two eldest sons have done multiple tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military of today is not the military that fought World War II. It is not even the military that fought the first Gulf War. It is a military that has been thoroughly politicized. It is a military that is suffering the fallout of Patricia Schroeder's ridiculous, politically correct policies that still have great power and sway in the military. And I'm just going to have to tell you: I do not mean to impugn the junior personnel in the military, the line troops, the junior officers. I'm not talking about these people. These people are doing a fine job. They're outstanding people. But the senior ranking, the civilian and senior ranking military personnel are thoroughly indoctrinated and on board with this politically correct agenda that's in the military.

RUSH: Yeah. I'll tell you the most recent example of it. A glaring example was General Casey, more concerned about the "diversity" in his Army than the loss of life at Fort Hood.

CALLER: General Casey, sir, and Wesley Clark are not the exceptions in the upper echelons. They are the rule. Those are the kinds of men that are running the show and they will throw the junior personnel under the bus to save themselves every time. And that is my opinion. Again, I don't mean to impugn any of the junior people.

RUSH: We know what you mean. We know exactly what you mean.

CALLER: Okay.

RUSH: Everything's been politically correctized -- chickified, if you will. That's one of the things I call it. Can you hold on for a break?

CALLER: Certainly.

RUSH: I want you to explain to people what you meant. I think I know what you meant by the Patsy Schroeder stuff, Tailhook and all that, but I want you to explain exactly what you mean by that 'cause I'm sure you've got a lot of people curious.


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RUSH: We rejoin our call with Greg from parts unknown in North Carolina, a former member of the Navy SEAL team who has two sons who served two tours each in Iraq and Afghanistan. What was it that Pat Schroeder did when she was a member of Congress from Colorado?

CALLER: I guess the question would be: What didn't she do? She was very influential in passing legislation and putting pressure on the military to basically and fundamentally feminize the military. I can speak most clearly about the Navy, 'cause that was my experience at the time, especially when Admiral Kelso -- who was the CNO at the time -- kind of completely caved in after Tailhook and started instituting things like putting females on man-o-war, having the mixed training companies in boot camp and the like. And what Patricia Schroeder did was, with a really rather small cabal of very ambitious military officers -- who, by the way, violated military rules and regulations by petitioning in uniform on Capitol Hill for these changes, but nobody seemed to notice that -- were able to pass a lot of regulations through the Navy and the other branches that have, frankly, incorporated women into areas of the military where, being old-fashioned, I do not believe that they belong. And this has caused numerous problems throughout the military. Beyond that, I'm not exactly sure what else you would like me to add.

RUSH: No, I thought that's what you were talking about but I wanted people to hear you say it. Pat Schroeder was very liberal, huge feminist, and I wanted you to say the feminization. My word for it is chickification. But it's happening throughout our culture. It's happening throughout the media as well. And it's turning people soft and touchy-feely and so forth. And I know what you mean: There's no room for that on the battlefield.

CALLER: There is none. And I'm very concerned about the future of our nation's military. Again I do not mean to minimize the dangers that our military personnel are facing in this war. However, it isn't a full-scale, knock-down-drag-out between conventional fighting forces. I am concerned that if we ever do engage in that sort of warfare again -- and I think it's ultimately inevitable, I'm afraid -- that our military is not in the place where it needs to be.

RUSH: Meaning? This is scary. Meaning they're not committed to victory, that there are other things which take precedence?

CALLER: Absolutely, sir. And, frankly, there's a billion Chinamen that are becoming more and more bellicose by the day, are being armed at our expense and with our expertise, and are becoming a growing threat by the day, and I --

RUSH: I wouldn't worry about that. Obama charmed them on that trip over there. He bowed down.

CALLER: I saw that, as he bowed to their prime minister as well.

RUSH: Greg, I gotta go. I'm outta time sadly, but it's wonderful that you got through. A Thanksgiving blessing this audience got to hear you today. Thank you, sir.

CALLER: Thank you very much, Mr. Limbaugh.

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RUSH: My friends, one of the most famous lines ever uttered by Patsy Schroeder was, "I have a vagina, and I know how to use it." And I replied, "I have a brain and I have a penis, and I only have to use half of either." Tailhook taught every officer that to advance, you gotta be PC. That's another liberal legacy. It just destroys everything it purports to improve.
Best Wishes, Mike.

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Re: WTF!!?? Seriously, W. T. F!!!?????????? <== Yelling!
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2009, 10:30:50 AM »
Long ago, in a different time and place, smart people can do stupid things.  I was aquited, finished my hitch and was Honorably Discharged on Sept 23, 1981 and have a Good Conduct award as well.  The system works when you have good people looking out for you!

Unfortunately these guys are stuck with BO looking out for the enemy.
They're screwed.

To comment on Bic's post,
I remember Pat Schroeder well, Reagan sent her and Ron Dellums to Grenada on a fact finding mission and before they came back to report to their employers, (US ) and the President, they submitted their report for the approval of the Cuban dominated Govt of Grenada.

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Re: WTF!!?? Seriously, W. T. F!!!?????????? <== Yelling!
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2009, 11:13:48 AM »
Something tells me that if a SEAL reeaaallllly wanted to "abuse" a detainee, the only thing left would be blood stained rags.... and even they would disappear ;D.   Like many here, I'm getting feed up with all the PC "Wiz Kid's", not only in the chain of command but in government in general.  (It's reminiscent of JFK's "Wiz Kid's" back in the 60's, and many of us remember how well that went.)   I'll put my trust in the SEALS and the men and women on the ground! 

Well at least we'll all have a chance to "stand up" in 2010. 

 
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