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Kimber Ambi Safety
« on: March 15, 2010, 10:21:28 PM »
While considering a CTC laser grip for my new Kimber Tactical Ultra Carry II, I learned that the factory ambi safety won't work w/o modification. So I went to Kimber's web site and found a replacement for the right side paddle and ordered it. My question is, does the safety work like other 1911 style safeties? So is it just a pressure fit to the left side? Trying to decide if this is something I can tackle or need a gunsmith.

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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 10:50:49 PM »
Ambi safeties are 2-piece......most are like a tongue and groove fit...so, if it's just the right side pad, it should be a simple press in fit from the right to left, since it came from the manufacturer.
If you are retaining the original left side of the two-piece safety, it should not need re-fitting.
I would still do a full safety check on it though.




Here is a link to an older thread with some 1911 info. There are several links to fitting and safety checking 1911 safeties.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=3879.0
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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 11:22:10 PM »
That's what I was thinking. I've worked on full size 1911s,but wasn't sure if the procedure was any different.

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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 11:33:35 PM »
You may want to look at this again.  You may have a thumb safety with a protruding hammer pin on the right side.

Some of the modern Kimber ambi-safeties are an extended hammer pin type.  Meaning it does not have an arm which slides under the grip panel to hold in the right side safety lever.  Rather it has a slightly longer hammer pin which is machined to lock into the right side lever by rotating down onto the protruding pin.

You probably will not need a gunsmith if it is the pin type.  Just know that the right side lever will not lift out.  It must be rotated upwards to disengage from the protruding hammer pin.  To do this you should pull the left side lever out a bit to allow the right side lever to rotate freely.

Please let me know if I can help.

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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 11:54:00 PM »
Is this the piece you bought?

http://www.kimberamerica.com/shop/product.php?xProd=310&xSec=21




After Scott's post I checked again and it's hard to tell from the photo what type of engagement surface is on the pin. It looks like it may be the type he mentioned. If you could take a pic and post it, it might help.

I have worked with several types but the Kimber's is a different type (at least on the outside).
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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 06:20:31 PM »
Yes, that is the item that I bought. When I receive it in the mail, I'll do a pic to verify the type with you guys. Thanx for the help so far.

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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 10:51:51 AM »
I'm Pretty sure you will need the left side half, it has a longer pin with a groove that the right side slides over.  It is a really great design much better than a wilson style with the tab under the grip.  Good luck
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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 09:28:10 PM »
Quote from: scott.ballard on March 15, 2010, 11:33:35 PM
You may want to look at this again.  You may have a thumb safety with a protruding hammer pin on the right side.

Some of the modern Kimber ambi-safeties are an extended hammer pin type.  Meaning it does not have an arm which slides under the grip panel to hold in the right side safety lever.  Rather it has a slightly longer hammer pin which is machined to lock into the right side lever by rotating down onto the protruding pin.

You probably will not need a gunsmith if it is the pin type.  Just know that the right side lever will not lift out.  It must be rotated upwards to disengage from the protruding hammer pin.  To do this you should pull the left side lever out a bit to allow the right side lever to rotate freely.

Please let me know if I can help.

Stay Safe,


Thank you for all your help. The part came today and it did have an end similar to a mortise and tenon as someone else said, also of which I am familiar. The part that was different as Scott said, was that it did slide over the hammer pin. Thanks to your advise, I was able to replace it in about a half an hour. Thank you very much. Now waiting on the CTC laser grips for this and my Keltec P3AT.

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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 09:32:27 PM »
Glad to hear it went well........it makes it better when you do it yourself.
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Re: Kimber Ambi Safety
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 09:34:53 PM »
Great News!

Glad to hear it all worked out.

Enjoy the laser.  I really like mine.

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