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Re: Are you happy or mad about the new socialist health care plan? Vote!
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 04:12:11 PM »
Guys, take poll if you want to, but call your Senator today. This whole thing is going to be over with one way or the other by the end of the week. Act now! (Lord, I sound like an NRA "Legislative Alert" ::)). Still, its for a good reason. Do phone your Senate Kritter.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 04:27:10 PM »
Guys, take poll if you want to, but call your Senator today. This whole thing is going to be over with one way or the other by the end of the week. Act now! (Lord, I sound like an NRA "Legislative Alert" ::)). Still, its for a good reason. Do phone your Senate Kritter.
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Done already, Kerry won't answer and Scott Brown already made his intentions clear on this issue.  One cancels out the other so, for the time being, on certain issues, John Kerry is a moot point in the US Senate.  Scott Browns election has done wonders for this state already, there was even a (D) Congressman from the south of Boston who voted NO on the health bill.  I can't figure why but I figure don't look a gift horse in the ass!

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 04:33:03 PM »
This will be no different than any other democratic entitlement program ever passed, except it will be larger and far more expensive. The Haves will pay for the Have Nots. Always have, always will. It's what the socialists live for in this country.

Oh, they'll sugar coat it with more B.S. than a Bill Clinton love triangle, but in the end everyone who has health care will now pay far more for it, wait longer to get it, and when it finally comes the quality of it will resemble fresh dog feces. But cheer up. Now all these welfare crack whores with a half dozen bastard, illegitimate kids by six different fathers will be covered on your dime. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it?

Trying to listen to a democrat talk about "saving money" is like listening to muslims talk about world peace. A bit difficult to talk about something you know nothing about. Speaking of whores, Pelosi needs to put the crack pipe down. Bill T.

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 04:36:54 PM »
Guys, take poll if you want to, but call your Senator today. This whole thing is going to be over with one way or the other by the end of the week. Act now! (Lord, I sound like an NRA "Legislative Alert" ::)). Still, its for a good reason. Do phone your Senate Kritter.
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I think it is already done. I saw something on Fox that said the Prez was planning a signing ceremony for tomorrow! I think our only hope now, lies in the courts.  ??? :'(
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 04:37:27 PM »
Are you still under impression that they do care about the poll numbers? ???
The only poll they do believe in is the actual election results!
Now lets put this thing aside and examine the facts. I will use my family as an example.
I am in pretty good health for my age, my wife on the other hand has couple of preexisting conditions. I am still without a job, but lucky enough to have  COBRA coverage through my previous employer. This coverage is limited for 18 month so, I decided to do a little shopping for the Health Insurance few month ago. I got preferred rate coverage, but my wife got "denied" letter from the same insurer. As long as I maintain continuous coverage at exorbitant COBRA prices or get new coverage through gaining full time employment soon she wouldn't be denied payments for her medical bills. In case my continued coverage lapses for some reason, she will be denied payments of her medical bills due to the preexisting conditions. This is just her, my younger son could be another example.
Now, if you want to know how I feel about the whole thing that happened yesterday, I was relived. Something had to be done about the way we all pay for the medical treatment. Did I like the way the Dem's showed the bill down our throats, hell no! But change is well overdue. There should be some sort of the safety net system to soften the blow, but without turning it into dependency. Unfortunately most of the Gummint run programs are fertile soil for uncontrolled and inefficient bureaucracy.
So, what is the answer to those problems. All of the incumbents D's or R's have to be commended for tackling the Health Reform issue and then voted out of the office this coming November. The rest of them should be out after the next election cycle. They all too comfortable in their offices. Recall option and term limits have to be in place to keep the new once in check, and no lobbying jobs allowed afterward. Their compensation should be tied up to how much money they saved by making the government more efficient and smaller without sacrificing level of service. No political appointees to the key government agencies. Hire the best and the brightest our country has to offer. Use limited term contracts with well defined criteria to keep the top bureaucrats in check, extend the contracts if they are good or boot them out without severance if they are not.
I am still going to vote Republican, but wish we'll have a better choice next election.  

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 04:40:57 PM »
Sen Bill Nelson, D-FL, has never wrote me back even after the numerous calls and letters written. He didn't even have a generic staple letter, mailed by his crony staff.

Debbie Wasermann Schultz, Rep D-FL, aka "Pelosi's Lapdog", hasn't responded either.

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The only thing the courts "could" rule on is the Constitutionality of mandated coverage, NOT the ENTIRE BILL.

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 05:47:16 PM »
They didn't have a selection for "Pissed to the highest level of pisstivity" so I just put "angry".


Somehow, 'angry' just don't seem to fit right now.



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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2010, 09:19:40 PM »
Are you still under impression that they do care about the poll numbers? ???
The only poll they do believe in is the actual election results!
Now lets put this thing aside and examine the facts. I will use my family as an example.
I am in pretty good health for my age, my wife on the other hand has couple of preexisting conditions. I am still without a job, but lucky enough to have  COBRA coverage through my previous employer. This coverage is limited for 18 month so, I decided to do a little shopping for the Health Insurance few month ago. I got preferred rate coverage, but my wife got "denied" letter from the same insurer. As long as I maintain continuous coverage at exorbitant COBRA prices or get new coverage through gaining full time employment soon she wouldn't be denied payments for her medical bills. In case my continued coverage lapses for some reason, she will be denied payments of her medical bills due to the preexisting conditions. This is just her, my younger son could be another example.
Now, if you want to know how I feel about the whole thing that happened yesterday, I was relived. Something had to be done about the way we all pay for the medical treatment. Did I like the way the Dem's showed the bill down our throats, hell no! But change is well overdue. There should be some sort of the safety net system to soften the blow, but without turning it into dependency. Unfortunately most of the Gummint run programs are fertile soil for uncontrolled and inefficient bureaucracy.
So, what is the answer to those problems. All of the incumbents D's or R's have to be commended for tackling the Health Reform issue and then voted out of the office this coming November. The rest of them should be out after the next election cycle. They all too comfortable in their offices. Recall option and term limits have to be in place to keep the new once in check, and no lobbying jobs allowed afterward. Their compensation should be tied up to how much money they saved by making the government more efficient and smaller without sacrificing level of service. No political appointees to the key government agencies. Hire the best and the brightest our country has to offer. Use limited term contracts with well defined criteria to keep the top bureaucrats in check, extend the contracts if they are good or boot them out without severance if they are not.
I am still going to vote Republican, but wish we'll have a better choice next election.  
Health care does need to be reformed but not at the cost of 2 trillion $$'s that tax payers don't have! I also think it should have been done piece mill. Not all at once like this. Change something then see if it works, then change something else. If it doesn't work try something different. With the way they did it I think it's going to fail and their not going to know what to change and what to leave alone!  :( Some people will see a benefit soon, but we will all suffer later! :'(
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2010, 09:26:08 PM »
Done already, Kerry won't answer and Scott Brown already made his intentions clear on this issue.  One cancels out the other so, for the time being, on certain issues, John Kerry is a moot point in the US Senate.  Scott Browns election has done wonders for this state already, there was even a (D) Congressman from the south of Boston who voted NO on the health bill.  I can't figure why but I figure don't look a gift horse in the ass!

No joke I am with you Brother, it is a f'ing funny spot we are in here.

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 07:01:51 AM »
No one ever said liberals can understand common sense, simply because they possess very little of it. Insurance of any kind is based on the spreading of risk. It costs more for earthquake insurance in San Fransisco than Hoboken, New Jersey. The risk is simply greater. Dump in a bunch of guaranteed sick people, (i.e. "pre existing conditions") into an already expensive insurance risk pool, and the price per person will go up, NOT DOWN.

So much of this abortion of a health care bill is based on pure ignorance and blind trust with absolutely zero facts to back it up, it is totally pathetic. This whole government, state run health care debacle has already played itself out in Massachusetts with dismal failure, and costs that have risen into the Stratosphere. This will be worse on a national basis simply because Massachusetts by in large is an affluent state. When the federal government finds itself having to FORCE insurance companies to cover every sick, broke, uneducated, unemployed or under employed, minority in the United States, please don't be so foolish to think it will be done cheaper, if in fact it can be done at all. Bill T.

 

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