Get ready for a National Sales Tax

[fightingquaker13]

on what Constitutional basis???





not like that has stopped them lately....

Actually a good point. The 16A allows for an income tax and Article I for tarriffs. There is no specific authority for a sales or VAT tax. Though this probably won't stop them.
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[crusader rabbit]

Yesterday, Caterpiller announced a huge accounting charge because of this healthcare idiocy.  Late last night, AT&T announced a $1-billion charge-off due to the same thing.  John Deere announced a mulit-million-dollar charge against profits to fund this horrendous, jobs-killing bill. 

I have no idea how many of you have ever run companies, but one of the inescapable facts of corporate life is you need to factor in all the costs and charges to determine the price of your goods or services.  Then, you need to determine if there is a market for those goods or services at your cost plus whatever margin of profit you include in your calculations.  If there is no profit, then it's just not worth the effort.  If it is too costly, you will have no buyers and will soon be out of business.

Now, AT&T was just told they need to charge the consumer $1-billion more for the services provided--just to stay at the same level as last year (which wasn't all that good).  Caterpiller was told they need to charge hundreds of millions more for same things they sold this year at millions less. 

Look for John Deere and Caterpiller and countless other manufacturers to relocate someplace out of the country--taking thousands of jobs with them.  And look for a substantial increase in your phone bill.  We have an a$$ in the White House who is determined to bankrupt this nation.  And themasses (insert a space where you deem it most suitable) put him there.

I continue to weep for my country.

Crusader

[Rastus]

..............
I continue to weep for my country.

Crusader

If the slugs put a sales tax out the conservatives need to think long term and force it heavily on food, medicine and other necessities...stay with me here.  The people who support the looney left need to suffer or this is all good as far as they are concerned. 

So what, the Repubs lose a few offices....it's the war of minds that needs to be won over time not a single election.  Strategic planning is needed and the corrupt liberal socialist plans need to be seeded with pain for the masses....the masses who will not work or contribute need to be most uncomfortable in the largess that is given them without their appreciation or thanks. 

[philw]

Canada is worse. In addition to the national GST of 7%, they also have provincial taxes of from 5-8%. So in some places, like Nova Scotia, a combined "sales" tax of 15%.

what happened here was they pissed off all the sales taxes  that where on some things  and at a higher rate  and also cut income tax  for this flat tax


however the thieving Government  has up excise on fuel and grog   so it now costs us more to drink and drive

in most ways it is easier  however some of the extra BS that business have to go through is a PITA still however better than before  

the whole tax thing is a crock if you ask me and needs re-doing

[fightingquaker13]

If the slugs put a sales tax out the conservatives need to think long term and force it heavily on food, medicine and other necessities...stay with me here.  The people who support the looney left need to suffer or this is all good as far as they are concerned.  

So what, the Repubs lose a few offices....it's the war of minds that needs to be won over time not a single election.  Strategic planning is needed and the corrupt liberal socialist plans need to be seeded with pain for the masses....the masses who will not work or contribute need to be most uncomfortable in the largess that is given them without their appreciation or thanks.  

Ahh Rastus, ever the good Christian. Sacrifice the poor in the interest of political expediency. Your piety and morality continue to amaze me.
FQ13
PS Its spelled GOD, not GOP
PPS Rastus read, don't just thump, your Bible. I would highly reccomend the book of Amos. Spoken in truth and with love brother.

[Sponsor]

[CDR]

Just like Europe.....I think Britain's VAT was recently raised to 27%, higher on specific "luxury items",....

No, Britain's VAT is currently set at 17.5%.  The government experimented for 13 months a couple of years ago and tried lowering it to 15% to encourage people to spend money but soon realized that it needed to go back to the previous 17.5% level.  There is a belief presently that after Britain's general election the VAT will rise to 20%.

[Solus]

You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go;
I owe my soul to the company store.

[fullautovalmet76]

Ahh Rastus, ever the good Christian. Sacrifice the poor in the interest of political expediency. Your piety and morality continue to amaze me.
FQ13
PS Its spelled GOD, not GOP
PPS Rastus read, don't just thump, your Bible. I would highly reccomend the book of Amos. Spoken in truth and with love brother.

Quaker,
Are you really advocating a theocracy here? I mean you are promoting using the government to execute part of "God's plan" for the poor, right? Come again about the separation of "Church and State".....
 

[fightingquaker13]

Quaker,
Are you really advocating a theocracy here? I mean you are promoting using the government to execute part of "God's plan" for the poor, right? Come again about the separation of "Church and State".....
 

Hardly. Just saying that if you use the Lord's name to push for a political position, as Rastus does, you shouldn't line the poor up as cannon fodder to further your agenda. Me, I prefer to leave religion out of politics and rely on logic. All men can agree with, and have their minds changed by, a well reasoned point. We will never agree on religion, so its a stupid thing to try to attain. I mean Rastus and I are both Born Again Christians and we're barely on speaking terms (if that). So what does that say about any government based on religion?
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[Rastus]

Apparently it's OK to use government to circumvent teaching.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 (King James Version)
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Piety indeed.

Knowledge without understanding.