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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2010, 02:58:07 PM »
K.C. Eusebio is no slacker with a pistol!

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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 03:11:28 PM »
I wonder if they're gonna include Jarts (lawn darts), mumbly peg and spit balls....

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As to the show, after episode 1............slightly boring......not what I expected (IMHO).
It'll end up as a bunch of drama queens with weapons (with all due respect to each person and their respective skills per their discipline).
That being said, I'll give it a few more episodes before I make my final call.
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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2010, 04:08:36 PM »
I don't know this for sure, but the style of the show and the photography/editing lead me to believe that it was put together by the same people that created Top Chef.  Which was my take on it...Top Chef with a little Survivor thrown in at the end.

Can't wait to see J.J. Racaza shoot a pistol that's not a race gun.  Next week...

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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2010, 04:38:02 PM »
I think that "Survivor with guns!" should be 16 people armed to the teeth and the target would be that annoying little dweeb, Jeff Probst!  Sorry Jeff, no immunity idol in my game!!!!

Kinda like "Lord of the flies" with a slightly more enjoyable twist!

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The History Channel needs to air this program before my beddy-bye time!

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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2010, 08:13:46 PM »
Personally it was ok, I was surprised that Seeklander got eliminated 1st, it however did not surprise me that the Olympian won, he kept looking and accounting for the conditions, ( something I have mentioned here many times, if you want to shoot past 300 yards. )  and he adjusted for it. All of the equipment was more than capable of the shots taken, but, each shooter had no sighters and without a spotter, your dead in the water as far as zero, even if shot in by the best, different eyes see sights differently, all did better with the scoped rifles. I think in this competition, it should more like the Masters tournament, every competitor should shoot every stage, and then we will see the Top shot. But you have to be careful, like the Triathlon, cyclists and swimmers have an edge, once they get into their specialty, they haul a**, so single elimination I don't go for, too many variables, 1 bad stage and goodbye. JJ is a world champion, but is used to very finely tuned pistols and shooting the same stages over and over, as far as the steel challenge go's. He is also an IPSC champion. Once they get to pistols, he will probably shine, but not like he will with his own equipment. If it has to be an elimination match, I like double elimination, every stage the winner get paired off against another winner, and losers pair off with other losers, in that way, Seeklander would not have gone home, but the best he could do is 3rd when all is said and done, as 1st would have never lost and 2nd would have only lost once, to the winner.

Gunsite put on an invitational, and they provided all the pistols, I don't recall any rifle, and had some of the very best, Dave Sevigny, Jerry Miculek, Randi Rogers, a best athlete from the air force and many more, but the pistols were brand new in the box, and nobody shot to their norm, but they all shot every stage and had an overall winner that was earned. Shooting Gallery covered it if you have it on DVD or DVR. That is a fair way to do business.

Sorry Mike, you were not robbed, but I think you would have done better, if you were allowed to shoot all the stages, Erik if you read this, give Mike my condolences.
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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2010, 07:46:37 AM »
Yeah....from the go, those proficient with a rifle would have the advantage since it is the first stage.  Have a bad day or not be an expert rifleman and you face elimination.

I thought Mike did good.  Took the blame, might have thought it was not the best way to find the true best over all, but gave no hint he thought it was unfair.  Reminded me of Patton's reaction to his scoring in his Olympic Pentathlon event.

I noticed his pistol shot in picking who he thought should be eliminated was a bullseye...tried to watch the other pistol shots and I didn't see anyone as close as  him.

I'd bet that if he could have shot his own name he would have.  He picked the only other person involved in his event, his spotter.

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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2010, 08:06:40 AM »
Solus, I'm not sure we watched the same show!  The guy who hit the bull when picking was the black guy (spotter), it was  dead center.  Mike was the third shot on the kid, he did not pick his spotter.
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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2010, 08:17:05 AM »
Solus, I'm not sure we watched the same show!  The guy who hit the bull when picking was the black guy (spotter), it was  dead center.  Mike was the third shot on the kid, he did not pick his spotter.

Ohhh...I thought Mike shot first......ooops...

Well, was doing other stuff at the time...the show is not a 'grabber' for sure with the picking...

Well, it will be nice to see how shooters  react to all the drama....
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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2010, 08:03:04 AM »
m25,

I will pass them along.  Mike has received a wonderful amount of support from the shooting community, but there have also been some asshats and keyboard commando's talking smack about him.

Some things to consider.  It's quite apparent that the show is about entertainment and not who's really the best shot.  I know 5 of the guys on the show and I also know about another 10 who didn't make the final cut, and all of them seem to have more across the board skill than the ones selected by the producers.  I suspect part is the selection process is about creating drama with conflicting personalities.  No surprise there.  

Among the many things working against Mike was halfway through his shooting he noticed the rear sight blade was loose and was moving around for every shot.  Mike actually stopped shooting and tightened the screw with his thumb to keep it from moving and tried to keep shooting.  Of course that was edited out, and don't get me started on the "elimination" challenge.  The kid had only one skill..long range shooting.  Coincidentally, that was the final challenge after the selection process.  Any other shooting challenge and the kid would have had a very difficult time keeping up with Mike.  Not throwing conspiracy theories, but a coincidence nonetheless.

Mike set a standard for responsibility and character that we should all strive to attain.  I'm proud and honored to call him my friend.

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Re: America's Top Shot -- coming soon to The History Channel
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2010, 09:04:44 AM »
The kid had only one skill..long range shooting.  Coincidentally, that was the final challenge after the selection process.  Any other shooting challenge and the kid would have had a very difficult time keeping up with Mike.  USSA-1

I agree totally about Mike. Good guy all around. But wasn't the reason some of the guys shot at Kelly's target was to assure he would get Mike eliminated? I think one of the guys said that after shooting Kelly's target. He wanted Mike gone, and thought Kelly, because of his rifle skills, was the guy to get it done. I think they knew in advance the "elimination round" was going to consist of long range rifle shooting.

But here is where it conflicts. Kelly said as he approached the shooting position for practice in the "elimination round", he was glad to see it involved shooting modern weapons, and not a W.W. I rifle, as if he were surprised. He also said later, while he was eating cookies and milk in the house the night before, he didn't understand why the guys shot at his target. He said something to the effect, "What did I do that had a negative impact on the team". The guy who shot Kelly's target did so because he thought Kelly had the best chance to eliminate him, (Mike)? Did they all know in advance of what the "elimination round" would consist of, or not? It's a bit conflicting based on their dialog and timeline.   Bill T.

 

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