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Re: Religion, Schools, The Tea Party and Fl.
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2010, 11:49:48 AM »
I've amused myself with smart azzed comment's, now I will state my opinion.
I think the school day should start with a moment of silence , right after the Pledge of Allegiance. Specific faiths have no place in non sectarian schools, however faith should be a part of our lives no matter where we are.

I have to disagree with G4L's examples, Global warming is not a "theory", it is a load of crap. It is a scam that becomes more discredited as time goes on.
Evolution may still be a theory, but it is one with an awful lot of evidence to back it up, including being repeated in a lab. (evolutionary change between generations, not Apes to people ).
It's widely accepted that the Creator granted us free will, why, if not to pursue our curiosity about "How does that work/ why did this happen ?
Evolution theory does not contradict Creation theory. Create is the act, Evolve is simply how it was performed, the fact that cars and guns change every year (evolve) has no impact on how or why the were originally created .
I had to look this up but it fits,
John 1:1 (King James Version)
John 1
 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If we take "the Word" as representing the formulation of a coherent Idea it is another way of saying what my Dad used to tell me about building, once he had it visualized in his mind the creating was done, the rest of it was just rearranging lumber piles.
Just my thoughts, it's what can happen if you work alone to long.   ;D

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Re: Religion, Schools, The Tea Party and Fl.
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2010, 04:51:37 PM »
I've amused myself with smart azzed comment's, now I will state my opinion.
I think the school day should start with a moment of silence , right after the Pledge of Allegiance. Specific faiths have no place in non sectarian schools, however faith should be a part of our lives no matter where we are.

I have to disagree with G4L's examples, Global warming is not a "theory", it is a load of crap. It is a scam that becomes more discredited as time goes on.
Evolution may still be a theory, but it is one with an awful lot of evidence to back it up, including being repeated in a lab. (evolutionary change between generations, not Apes to people ).
It's widely accepted that the Creator granted us free will, why, if not to pursue our curiosity about "How does that work/ why did this happen ?
Evolution theory does not contradict Creation theory. Create is the act, Evolve is simply how it was performed, the fact that cars and guns change every year (evolve) has no impact on how or why the were originally created .
I had to look this up but it fits,
John 1:1 (King James Version)
John 1
 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If we take "the Word" as representing the formulation of a coherent Idea it is another way of saying what my Dad used to tell me about building, once he had it visualized in his mind the creating was done, the rest of it was just rearranging lumber piles.
Just my thoughts, it's what can happen if you work alone to long.   ;D

Tom, You'd be amazed that I agree with you 100%. I was rushed a bit so I summarized a little more than I should have. I agree 110% the "evolution on small scales is apparent where as Darwinian ape to human evolution is a load of bull. I stated that Global Warming is taught and should be as a theory as much as darwinian evolution is a theory. Schools, for the majority, teach both as hard fact. I believe quite simply that God spoke into existence, quite literally, the world. I also agree that species adapt and evolve to survive. Look at man, we have obviously evolved in many ways as has other animal and plant life to survive the changing of the world around us. So I think more or less you and I agree on most of the subject matter.
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Re: Religion, Schools, The Tea Party and Fl.
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 04:59:34 PM »
Seems in good ol' Florida, you don't even need to bring religion up, just being a member of the Tea Party gets this woman fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCmDdJDuQ7M&feature=player_embedded

and yes she is an "educator" asked to speak, and fired for what she said.

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Re: Religion, Schools, The Tea Party and Fl.
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2010, 05:02:02 PM »
Tom, You'd be amazed that I agree with you 100%. I was rushed a bit so I summarized a little more than I should have. I agree 110% the "evolution on small scales is apparent where as Darwinian ape to human evolution is a load of bull. I stated that Global Warming is taught and should be as a theory as much as darwinian evolution is a theory. Schools, for the majority, teach both as hard fact. I believe quite simply that God spoke into existence, quite literally, the world. I also agree that species adapt and evolve to survive. Look at man, we have obviously evolved in many ways as has other animal and plant life to survive the changing of the world around us. So I think more or less you and I agree on most of the subject matter.
I'm semi on the same page. The Bible isn't and was never meant to be, a science book. It tells us God created Man and Woman in His image. It doesn't tell us how. Who cares? Find me the missing link, or find me the corpses of a literal Adam and a literal Eve. It won't change my faith either way. The problem occurs when people take Scripture so literally that they forget that God isn't in fight at all. They are just arguing about who's view of how to read a book is better. Its the sin of pride. "I Know what the Bible Really means". Please! That's why its called faith, not math. We do the best we can to understand the writings of fallible men who tried to describe their encounters with the infinite. Nothing more and nothing less. The Book is authoritative, inspired and true. Literally true, and self interpreting? I say no. YMMV.
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