America Rising

[fightingquaker13]

I agree too.  I hope we're wrong and it won't be as bad as we fear.

This is the hill I'm willing to die on.

Well, its kind of a low hill. Look, you guys can hole up in your own private Alamo if you want to. Who am I to say you nay? But read a little history first. We have been through far worse times than these. The Alien and Sedition Act? The Sedition Act of 1918? The Red Scares? The New England seccesion plot during the War of 1812? Teapot Dome? The imposition of Jim Crow after the Hays-Tilden "election" of 1877? The Coal Wars? I mean c'mon folks! Buy a bit of perspective here. All of these settled by law and elections. Yeah, it was slow and frustrating, but a hell of a lot better than than 1861. Az. as Fort Sumpter? Remember how well that one worked out. Quit bitchin' start organizing. Since when did ACORN become unbeatable? All they are is organized. Buy a copy of Rules For Radicals, read, and implement. It ain't that hard. Come Monday, God willing and the creek don't rise, the "liberal activist Court" will incorporate the 2A. Take a few deep calming breaths.
FQ13

[Pathfinder]

That's the problem with being "cosmopolitan" and a faux "libertarian", FQ, everything appears normal or at least relative.

You note individual, specific laws passed in response to a single stimulus. What we have here is the entire gummintal structure working to destroy our rights and freedoms, bankrupt this country through excessive taxes and a dead-wrong attempt to re-distribute some wealth (people like Soros and those mandating these changes are exempt of course), ignoring the US Constitution or working actively to subvert it.

In case you missed it, the game is up.

"Our" kongress willing to take any and all power for the federal gummint at the expense of a free market, we have a POTUS who is more than willing to rule through EO in those rare cases when kongress won't do his bidding. We have an oil spill that is polluting hundreds of thousands of square miles, and the response from DC is virtually non-existent. The USCG (under bho's direction) has flat out rejected help from most quarters, bho himself has refused to waive the Jones Act, skimmers that are available have not been deployed to the places they can be used, bacterial compounds that actually consume the oil have not been deployed, etc. etc. etc.

More weak willful "leadership" from bho. Or is it generating yet another "crisis" that can be taken advantage of by a willing fed gummint? More laws, more regulations, more gummint oversight - less freedom, less exercise of rights, less ability to act like the free men our Founders envisaged.

What would your historical sources think of the fed gummint now having a larger payroll than all private industry in this country combined?

All this is just the tip of the iceberg. Where - or when - do you draw the line at an exploding and abusive fed gummint?

[Bic]

Does anyone know where I might find a transcript/Cliffs Notes of that?  I don't seem to be able to shovel enough coal into the old 'puter to download anything but script.

[tombogan03884]

FQ, We are looking at this from a historically documented point of view.
You on the other hand are looking at it through the perspective of Locke, Hume, and several other stay at home, "intellectuals" who never actually did anything more than opine on unverified news stories.
Here's another news flash for you, Common Sense contains some good ideas, but it was written purely as a propaganda piece, to inflame the Colonies.  The "state of natural liberty" was considered shallow and unworkable, even at the time of publication

[PegLeg45]

More weak willful "leadership" from bho. Or is it generating yet another "crisis" that can be taken advantage of by a willing fed gummint? More laws, more regulations, more gummint oversight - less freedom, less exercise of rights, less ability to act like the free men our Founders envisaged.

Whack, said the hammer to the nail.

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