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MikeO

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Guns for the blind?
« on: August 14, 2010, 11:44:51 AM »
Just wondering if prohibiting the "visually impaired" from owning firearms would pass constitutional muster?

IIRC, Chicago is now requiring a vision test for a gun license?

Seems to me I remember a state (one of the Dakotas) issuing a blind man a concealed carry license; nothing in the "shall issue" regs that prevented his licensing.

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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 02:01:56 PM »
Seeing as how I am supposed to be working today and only drifting in and out ... and posting way too much, I don't have the time to research.  However, I recall reading in more than one source recently that visual impairment is not a valid reason to disallow owning of a firearm.  There was also something about carry permit, and I don't remember all the details except that some legally blind could carry.

If I come across something before someone else I will post links.

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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 03:38:39 PM »
Chicago? Well, that about sums it up.. Any and all barricades they can put up, they will. There was a recent post of a shooter with no arms firing a M+P pistol at the range.

Blind as in total? Or blind as in shapes or shadows, color, or depth?

I would have to research more on that.

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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 03:42:59 PM »
I took drivers Ed with a guy who was legally blind, He got his license.
Another thought, in order to attack a BG must get within arms reach, you don't need eyes to jam the gun against him and shoot till it clicks.
Wouldn't want to go skeet shooting with him though.

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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 04:10:03 PM »
You can't deny someone a constitutional right because of a disability. Can you?
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Re: Guns for the blind?
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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 04:55:16 PM »
I took drivers Ed with a guy who was legally blind, He got his license.
Another thought, in order to attack a BG must get within arms reach, you don't need eyes to jam the gun against him and shoot till it clicks.
Wouldn't want to go skeet shooting with him though.

Was cheney blind?  ;D

A guy down my aways was dead blind, the whole dog and cane show. The old bugger used to reload for people, and was a gun dealer. He used to be able t pull a pistol apart and put ti back together no probs, pick one up tell you what it was etc.
Of course submitting his paperwork in braille to the Firearms Registry used to drive them NUTZOID roflmao.
Oh and he used to target shoot as well NFI how, I assume people pointed him in the right direction first.
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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 08:03:33 PM »
The blind can hunt, free in most states. As far as a CCW? I guess I'd view it like a driver's licence. If you can somehow pass the written and practical? Who am I to say you nay?
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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 09:28:43 PM »
Was cheney blind?  ;D

A guy down my aways was dead blind, the whole dog and cane show. The old bugger used to reload for people, and was a gun dealer. He used to be able t pull a pistol apart and put ti back together no probs, pick one up tell you what it was etc.
Of course submitting his paperwork in braille to the Firearms Registry used to drive them NUTZOID roflmao.
Oh and he used to target shoot as well NFI how, I assume people pointed him in the right direction first.

It was a lawyer he shot ... I've got no problem with that  ;)
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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 09:46:26 PM »
It was a lawyer he shot ... I've got no problem with that  ;)
A Republican lawyer to boot. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;D
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Re: Guns for the blind?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 10:06:22 PM »
You can't deny someone a constitutional right because of a disability. Can you?
American's with Disabilities Act seams to prevent that
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