Appeals court: Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional (9th Circus)

[fightingquaker13]

That has no bearing, This has nothing to do with either religion, or 1st Amendment, (which by the way has never been held to protect lying for gain.
This is a simple case of falsely claiming things that are not true .
And why shouldn't candidates claims be fact checked ?

Actually Tom, that's the problem. Lying for gain is perfectlly Constitutional. Its lying for gain at someone else's expense that is criminal. There has to be fraud or libel/slander with an identfiable, discreet victim.  Here, we have to find a victim. I don't see one other than the voters. Yet, if we allow this, than someone has to be "fact checker' for all elections. They would all end up in court. I loathe and despise this guy. I just don't see a way to Constitutionally stop politicians from lying (substitute breathing). I mean hell, the Constitution itself exmpts Congress critters from being held to account for anything they say under the "free speech and debate" clause of article I.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Actually Tom, that's the problem. Lying for gain is perfectlly Constitutional. Its lying for gain at someone else's expense that is criminal. There has to be fraud or libel/slander with an identfiable, discreet victim.  Here, we have to find a victim. I don't see one other than the voters. Yet, if we allow this, than someone has to be "fact checker' for all elections. They would all end up in court. I loathe and despise this guy. I just don't see a way to Constitutionally stop politicians from lying (substitute breathing). I mean hell, the Constitution itself exmpts Congress critters from being held to account for anything they say under the "free speech and debate" clause of article I.
FQ13

He would have disqualified BO.

There is a $ stipend that goes with the M of H, Veterans are given preference, on Civil Service exams at least, and extra points for each decoration, so it meets the criteria for criminal fraud.

[TAB]

when some one says they got XXXX award, but does not actually have it.  what should happen is all those people that do have that award, should go beat thier ass.

prob solved.