Ruger SR9/SR40 vs. Glock17/22 ?

[rat31465]

Trigger, trigger, trigger. She gots ta like the trigger.

I stated something to this effect when I first joined another firearms forum and was promptly told by several Firearms Instructors that....The way a gun Fits and feels to you is irrelevant...as with proper training the shortcomings of any firearm can be trained out of you.

I understand the premise behind such a ludicrous statement but I still disagree with it.

Especially with a new unexperienced shooter...the way a firearm fits in the hand will make a huge difference if only a psychological one.  Pick the one thats feels comfortable and inspires the most confidence.

[JdePietro]

I know this board/site/show/MB are all sponsored by Ruger and I will be the last one to bash them, but I need to change my title to S&W Connoiseur because here I go again pushing the S&W. If she and you have not handled a M&P you don't know what you are missing. These are amazing sidearms, they have adjustable back straps which by the way change palm swell and distance to trigger for our short fingered friends. My Fiancee has the M&P9c and loves it, has it all set to her tastes and can shoot it all day in good comfort. Heck even I like the thing. S&W always has a rebate or mag program so you get something extra when you buy and I really believe that at this point in time S&W has the best Poly pistol for the price, FN coming in a close second.

[MikeO]

The way a gun Fits and feels to you is irrelevant... Pick the one thats feels comfortable and inspires the most confidence.

I know what they mean, and what you mean, and I agree w both of you!

Fit and feel are not irrelevant, but they may have more to do w how well you like shooting a particular handgun, rather than how well you actually will shoot that particular handgun after you really know what you are doing. The gun that inspires the most confidence may not work any better for you than those that inspire less.

OTOH, most gun owners will never get to the point where they really know what they are doing, so they may as well feel good about what they are doing, and have confidence that it will be good enough when the time comes. And it probably will. 

[WatchManUSA]

When you look at guns with aggressive texturing on the grip surface you need to consider how you are going to carry the gun.  The guns with aggressive textures can wreak havoc on cloths and exposed skin that continuously rubs against the surfaces.  Glock learned their lesson with the RTF grip surface and changed it with the Gen4.  People make the same comments regarding the H&K P30 and now the "E" series Sigs.

If it is a range gun then the problem is probably a non-factor but if your looking at carry gun pay attention to the surface textures against your body parts.

There is nothing wrong with the Rugers but if your looking at a poly-framed gun you might also consider the FNX line.  The FNX is available in both 9mm and .40S&W.  The FNX has full ambidextrous controls and can work in single action (cocked & locked) and DA/SA mode.  It's priced in the same neighborhood as Glock, XD/XDm, and M&P.

[Hazcat]

But when it comes right down to it.........



Wheel gunz iz Real gunz! 

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[fightingquaker13]

When you look at guns with aggressive texturing on the grip surface you need to consider how you are going to carry the gun.  The guns with aggressive textures can wreak havoc on cloths and exposed skin that continuously rubs against the surfaces.  Glock learned their lesson with the RTF grip surface and changed it with the Gen4.  People make the same comments regarding the H&K P30 and now the "E" series Sigs.

If it is a range gun then the problem is probably a non-factor but if your looking at carry gun pay attention to the surface textures against your body parts.

There is nothing wrong with the Rugers but if your looking at a poly-framed gun you might also consider the FNX line.  The FNX is available in both 9mm and .40S&W.  The FNX has full ambidextrous controls and can work in single action (cocked & locked) and DA/SA mode.  It's priced in the same neighborhood as Glock, XD/XDm, and M&P.

And again we agree! I really think the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Glocks beat the hell out of the Gen 3s. The extra stippling and finger grooves  now the gen 4 grips seem like a lot of hype. If I could find a a mythical used Gen1  G-26 to trade in on the Gen3, I would trade it in a heartbeat. My old G-17 was about perfect for this Quaker.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

And again we agree! I really think the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Glocks beat the hell out of the Gen 3s. The extra stippling and finger grooves  now the gen 4 grips seem like a lot of hype. If I could find a a mythical used Gen1  G-26 to trade in on the Gen3, I would trade it in a heartbeat. My old G-17 was about perfect for this Quaker.
FQ13

I will not hold that against you Watchman.
But I hope it does not become a regular thing.    

But when it comes right down to it.........



Wheel gunz iz Real gunz!

You mean these ?   

[Hazcat]

You mean these ?   

YUP! Very Nice!

[rat31465]

While I ashamedly have to admit that currently the only wheel gun I own is an Iver Johnson .32 S&W Top Break....you can add me to the list of those who prefer Revolvers.  A nicely tuned S&W 686 is a hard gun to beat for all around usage.

[billt]

When you look at guns with aggressive texturing on the grip surface you need to consider how you are going to carry the gun.  The guns with aggressive textures can wreak havoc on clothes and exposed skin that continuously rubs against the surfaces.  Glock learned their lesson with the RTF grip surface and changed it with the Gen4.  People make the same comments regarding the H&K P30 and now the "E" series Sigs.

+1

I'm not understanding the need for all of these sandpaper like abrasive textures we're now seeing on handguns? People 25 years ago had no trouble holding on to .44 Magnum Super Blackhawks, or hot loaded Smith & Wesson 29's with beautiful, smooth wooden grips. Now their heading to the abrasive isle of Home Depot to wrap their 9 MM's in the latest Carborundum Norton has to offer. I can see the new Overmolded Hogue style because it's not abrasive, yet provides a nice gripping surface, but some of these "solutions" look like something you would use to refinish a family room floor! And then of course, right away the industry gets into a "can you top this" contest over it.

I can't imagine some of these abrasive style grips rubbing against a nice shirt, or worse bare skin. Not to mention they would hang up on clothing like trying to sweep steel wool off a carpet. It used to be if you wanted a little better surface for gripping a handgun you went to checkered grips. It provided you with a better surface, plus good looks. Now it's gone off the chart. People are too quick to adapt what some of these competitors use on the range in competition, to everyday carry. A lot of this stuff doesn't cross over very well. It's one thing to play with a gun on the range for half an hour, and another to carry one 9 hours a day on your person. Top Fuel dragsters are fun to watch, but they wouldn't be much good at getting you to work.   Bill T.