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Re: Ruger
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2010, 05:45:15 PM »
Haz what about a 5 shot 45acp with a 3 inch tube?

Wouldn't you be stuck with half moon clips?
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Gotta agree with FQ on this one.


Ruger made a Blackhawk in .357/.38spl that also had an extra cylinder for using with 9mm. A friend of mine's dad has one. Ruger sells what they call a 'convertible' Blackhawk in .45 Colt that comes with a .45 ACP cylinder. The cylinder is custom made for the proper head spacing internally.
I read that Ruger doesn't make a factory convertible cylinder for a Vaquero, but Hamilton Bowen will make you one for a fee.  ;D  http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/default.htm



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The versatile Blackhawk has also been adapted to fire the .30 Carbine, .41 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and .45 Colt cartridges. Later, cylinders were made available to allow "Convertible" Blackhawks that could shoot .357 Magnum/.38 Special in one cylinder and 9mm Luger (9x19) in another. There are also .45 Long Colt Blackhawks that are convertible to .45 ACP by means of a second cylinder.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ruger_blackhawk_vaquero.htm

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=485794

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=197669561
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=197986925
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 06:03:03 PM »
I had the .357/9mm. I just figured it worked because it was SA. There were no extractors, just the rod. I suppose you could do a DA without the extractor and just shake or individidually extract the shells. Bond arms derringers work like that in pistol calibers. Still, it seems to kind of defeat the purpose of a DA revolver.
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2010, 06:06:44 PM »
I had the .357/9mm. I just figured it worked because it was SA. There were no extractors, just the rod. I suppose you could do a DA without the extractor and just shake or individidually extract the shells. Bond arms derringers work like that in pistol calibers. Still, it seems to kind of defeat the purpose of a DA revolver.
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I was thinking strictly SA....I would think a top break (if factory made to do so) would work with the moons just like a DA with swing-out cylinder......but if it was a dedicated .45 ACP, then the cylinder could be factory made to head space without the clips.

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Re: Ruger
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2010, 06:32:06 PM »
I bet you don't get that great of acccuracy with the 9mm

38/357 bore is ~ .357  9mm is.355
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2010, 06:42:57 PM »
I bet you don't get that great of acccuracy with the 9mm

38/357 bore is ~ .357  9mm is.355
Nope, I didn't anyway.  It was there as a sales tool, and a way to add versatility for plinking. It was pants compared to .38 or .357. I only shot a very few rounds through it.
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Re: Ruger
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2010, 06:49:19 PM »
The .22 WMR is much the same with a bore size of .002 greater than the .22 LR. Most Single Six Ruger Blackhawk Convertibles will not shoot .22 Magnums as accurately as the .22 LR cartridge because of this.  Bill T.

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Re: Ruger
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2010, 06:57:46 PM »
The .22 WMR is much the same with a bore size of .002 greater than the .22 LR. Most Single Six Ruger Blackhawk Convertibles will not shoot .22 Magnums as accurately as the .22 LR cartridge because of this.  Bill T.
Shouldn't it be the reverse? Bullet that matches the bore=more accuracy than bullet that is undersized?
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2010, 07:39:45 PM »
Wouldn't you be stuck with half moon clips?
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That is not a bad thing, think "Speed loader".

3 1/2 inch, 45 Colt under $850

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfTopBreak.tpl

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Re: Ruger
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2010, 07:51:39 PM »
Gotta agree with FQ on this one.

If it was a 5 shot you'd actually have to use full moon clips since you can't really split a 5 shot cylinder in half. You could also use .45 auto-rim ammo but it's a bit hard to find and not really cost effective unless you're loading your own. I personally like revolvers with full moon clips though. I'm really wanting to get a S&W 327 nightguard with the 8 shot .357 moon clips.
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Re: Ruger
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2010, 08:01:54 PM »
Ruger and Winchester/Olin were just added to the Forbes Fortune 500 list. G&A issue, current.

S&W is running two shifts, as well as others, as their stocks increase.

Recession proof?

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