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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 02:03:12 PM »
I really can't argue with anything there. I would say that a Bond Derringer .357(or choose your caliber) is just as small as that .22 though.
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 02:21:14 PM »
His argument for the .22 is bogus.  If you have a couple of days to wait for a determined attacker to bleed out, be my guest.  If your attacker has any kind of pain threshold (natural or artificial) and you do not hit a vital organ you will die before he does.  That's like arguing that it is better to carry an icepick instead of a knife because it is easier to carry.  Why bother if that is the most effort you are willing to put into it?

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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 02:26:57 PM »
I think he had too much kool aid
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 02:33:03 PM »
His argument for the .22 is bogus.  If you have a couple of days to wait for a determined attacker to bleed out, be my guest.  If your attacker has any kind of pain threshold (natural or artificial) and you do not hit a vital organ you will die before he does.  That's like arguing that it is better to carry an icepick instead of a knife because it is easier to carry.  Why bother if that is the most effort you are willing to put into it?
Two reasons.
Size and recoil/weight.
As far as size, its bogus. As I said, you can get a Bond, or for that matter a Kel-tec .32 that is small enough not to make a bit of difference.
Weight and recoil though? My old man is getting, well old. I rembember my Granddad. He kept a Blackhawk by his bed. No way in hell he could have fired it. He'd have been better off with a .22. Looking down a muzzle and hearing a bang is a lot better than nothing. Only just, but still true.  I won't argue for a .22, or a .32 for that matter (hell, I'm iffy on .380) as an SD caliber, but it does have a niche if you can't handle bigger.
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 03:16:45 PM »
I'll accept his reasoning and his list.  My list would be different, but the reasons probably wouldn't change much.  Except - I have enough substance to have no problem with "a two pound chunk of steel and seven rounds."

As far as some disagreements with the small calibers, my most common carry gun has become my lcp.  It is easy to conceal when I go in posted buildings (no printing or worry about a coat gap that gives me away, and no issues with the "grope test" I experienced once).  I know the full magazine of .380 may not knock someone down like one 230 grain .45 would, but it is handy. Small and with me is better than large on the dresser!
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 04:08:47 PM »
So this writer has what he likes as concealed handguns.   I was thinking more from a factual and historical basis.

What are actually the top ten guns carried?

What were the historically top ten guns?

I think we'd see a lot more revolvers on the list, both currently and historically
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 05:13:20 PM »
My little furry alien -

Media today isn't about history or even long term.  It is all about immediate and right now.  History is best defined as "the day before we started this survey."
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 05:47:55 PM »
My little furry alien -

Media today isn't about history or even long term.  It is all about immediate and right now.  History is best defined as "the day before we started this survey."

And most media isn't about "facts" either. 
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Re: Top 10 concealed handguns
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 07:16:28 PM »
I own #9 and #5. P3AT & M&P Full size .40.

Since it finally cooled off down here in S. Fl. I opt for a larger caliber carry. My S&W 6904 fits nicely also, as well as my M85 Ultra-Lite.

Heck, if it stays this "cool" down here, I'll get a shoulder rig for my 1911...

Pretty good list. But his opening remarks regarding generating "a reaction/emotion" is also why he wrote it.

from alf:
I think we'd see a lot more revolvers on the list, both currently and historically


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