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Texas_Bryan

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Civil War History
« on: December 07, 2010, 06:20:34 PM »
Team,

I'm working on a project, independent video game, and I need your help.  Specifically, who painted this?  I can't read the signature for nothing.



The project is about the Civil War, sort of, and if you have any awesome resources on the times throw them up here.  Been researching into the economic and corruption of power that led to the war, and its some pretty interesting history.

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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 06:33:53 PM »
Mort Kunstler comes to mind, but that's not his signature.

Can't place it.....may I saw it at a Stuckey's somewhere.

I'll keep searching.   I love a good mystery.

Oh.  BTW.   There never was a "civil" war as the circumstances do not match the definition of such.  What we had was a war between the states.  Or as many here call it, The War of Norther Aggression.
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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2010, 06:42:08 PM »
Mort Kunstler comes to mind, but that's not his signature.

Can't place it.....may I saw it at a Stuckey's somewhere.

I'll keep searching.   I love a good mystery.

Oh.  BTW.   There never was a "civil" war as the circumstances do not match the definition of such.  What we had was a war between the states.  Or as many here call it, The War of Norther Aggression.

Indeed, I also refer to the conflict as the 'War of Northern Aggression', but 'Civil War' proves to be more convenient at times.  it was a war between to sovereign nations, and as I've researched the issue, even the most slanted Union accounts, its clear that the United States was beyond unjustified in starting this conflict.  And believe me, I intend to represent that fact.

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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 07:03:16 PM »
Uh, TB, there is a signature in the lower right. Blow the picture up and you should be able to get the name.

Another long-shot possibility is Dan Troiani, but the signature doesn't even come close.
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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 07:19:27 PM »
Very widely used picture on the net.   However, no one gives credit to the owner.   You might check with this Facebook page.  They may know where it came from.  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48586300732#!/group.php?gid=48586300732&v=info
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48586300732#!/group.php?gid=48586300732&v=info

I've searched for artist "catte" and "calle" but to no avail.

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Re: Civil War History
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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 08:36:33 PM »
Chris Calle.
He's also done a lot of stamps for the USPS.
I couldn't find this exact painting, but the folks at the link might be able to help. There is onother one of his on their page.

http://www.knottywood-treasures.com/id19.html

http://www.callespaceart.com/Home.html

http://www.artcadeonline.com/recent-acquisitions/detail.aspx?id=1342

http://www.artworkoriginals.com/EB5SB7E0.htm




EDIT:
I found it in a collection of his after I wrote the above...The title of the painting you posted is Gettysburg.


http://www.millpondlicensing.com/search_5.asp?s_artist2=6

http://www.unicover.com/EF4UHZ1W.htm

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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 02:00:05 AM »
They may have already used that painting in the game "Civil War Generals II" from Firefly studio's.
I've got the game and if it isn't that picture it is darn close.

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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 08:51:49 AM »
Fantastic, thanks a bunch guys.

Tom, that's cool, I don't intend on using the actual picture.  I'll be painting it again using my game's theme, I just really want to make sure I can give credit where its due.

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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 09:10:43 AM »
If you're looking for the "why's" of the war, read Taney's majority opinion in Scott v. Sanford. Its 76 pages of the worst example of judicial activism (and bad history) in the history of the Court. Basically, in an attempt to make the slavery issue go away, Taney made the war inevitable by effectively nationalizing slavery. No longer could it be dealt ith by political means (states making their own laws, squatter soveriegnty, or Congressional action), it was now a Constitutional right protected by the 5A. What he didn't get was that this scared the crap out of the Northern white working class. Consider it outsourcing in the extreme.  Northern blue collar whites never really cared for African Americans (they still don't). However, Dredd Scott made it legal to essentially buy a bunch of slaves in Virginia, bring them to New York and put them to work in a factory. This did not go over well, and led to Lincoln's election. Its not a story told in the history books as much as it should be, but the war was as much about class politics as it was race or tarrifs or any of the rest of it. I'll post more if you want, but Taney (and the other 7 cononcurring and dissenting opinions ::) :P) in that particular fiasco are worth a read. Good luck with the project.
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Re: Civil War History
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 11:32:13 AM »
With out political meddling the slavery issue would have died a quite death within another 25-50 years.
Industrialization was already making it economically impractical in the South where the feared black masses were being replaced by machinery, while the Northern needs for labor were not being met even with the huge influx of immagration from Ireland and other parts of Europe.
The true blame for the war though lie's with the Founding Father's for not having the moral or political courage to follow their grand idea's to their logical conclusion, and instead, caving in to the special interests of the Southern moneyed class.

 

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