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New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« on: December 15, 2010, 07:30:48 AM »
Two of the guns I purchased over Thanksgiving weekend at auction finally arrived.  (The third one was at the FFL, but the shipper forgot to include the paperwork....got them to fax it last night, so I'll pick up the third one today.)

I'm not, I mean I wouldn't describe myself as, a revolver man.   While I own a couple that I inherited, I only had the desire for the  SW 686 with 8-3/8" barrel that I bought to shoot silhouette.   It's a fine gun.   My wife does have her Charter Bulldog, but that's about it.   So my best buddy and I were shooting together and he chided me on not having more revolvers.   He had all the latest short barreled, light weight zir-ti-chro-mium-whatevers Smiths, none of which particularly appealed to me.   He pointed out that revolvers still have the edge when ammo fails.  Just pull the trigger again and you get a fresh round.  

S O - O - O - O - O   then came the thanksgiving auctions.

Here is a 6" barreled 586 to go with my 8" 686.  And then I got this jewel, a 624, which is basically a 629, a .44 Magnum "N" frame fitted with a slightly shorter cylinder for .44 Special.   Smith only made it in 1985 and 1986.  Somewhere around ~7,500, I think, were made.  Yes, one could just fire .44 Specials in a 629, but this is sort of unique.   And it came with a 6.5" barrel also unique.  Intended more for the target shooter than anything else.  Or one can load the .44 Special up to higher velocities if desired.    I think this will become the backwoods gun.  Intimidating for 2 legged creatures and capable of stopping most 4 legged ones.

 

Both "WERE" new and unfired.  They went straight from the gun store counter to the range.   The 624 came with box and all accessories.  Neither gun has the internal lock feature....naturally since they are all pre-2000.  The firing pins are integral to the hammer.  And yes, before you ask, they work liked jeweled clocks.  Very crisp single action and very smooth double action.  I haven't pinned down the exact model and revision of the 586 yet.

And for those unfamiliar with S&W numbering, it's sort confusing like Glock, but there is some logic to it.  The original numbers were 2 digits, like model 10, 19, and 29.  Then they went to three digits with the first digit indicating the metal type.   5xx = blued steel, 6xx = Stainless, and the 3xx and 4xx those zir-ti-chro-mium-whatevers metals.   There's more to it but that's the basics.  If you asked me they used up (assigned) too many model numbers for slight variations.  A 581 has fixed sights and a 586 adjustable.  They should have just stuck a letter designator after the model it would have been better system.   The 7 shot x86 should have been number the x87 in my opinion, but it isn't my call.  Just trying to make sense of it.
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 09:30:54 AM »
Here is a 6" barreled 586 to go with my 8" 686.  And then I got this jewel, a 624, which is basically a 629, a .44 Magnum "N" frame fitted with a slightly shorter cylinder for .44 Special.   Smith only made it in 1985 and 1986.  Somewhere around ~7,500, I think, were made.  Yes, one could just fire .44 Specials in a 629, but this is sort of unique.

VERY NICE!
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I don't like firing special length cases in my magnums. That .1" of carbon at the end of the cylinder is a PITA to get out. I just load up 44 special loads in magnum length cases. If you don't reload, you either have to scrub or get a SWEET GUN like Alf did!      

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I haven't pinned down the exact model and revision of the 586 yet.

It's stamped on the frame where the crane rotates. If it just says 586, you got the first version. 586-1 would be the first revision.

My action stuff should be delivered today. Yay!
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 09:34:09 AM »
Nice! I'm not a revolver nut....but these are nice. Makes me want to pull out the 357's.
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2010, 10:36:11 AM »
Alf, check your PM.
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 01:47:52 PM »
Love them wheel guns!!! 

Very nice pick ups Alf... ;D 8)
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 01:54:58 PM »
Alf, check your PM.

Thanks for the link. 

FOR THOSE of you wondering, what he sent was a link to an old re-call for 624 and 629's.   Seem the metal supplier mixed a bad batch (or at least not the correct hardness) and S&W made about 500 cylinders out of this material.

On the good side, since they weren't making any more .44spl cylinders for this frame, they were upgrading people to 629's (.44Mag).  On the negative I don't know 25 years later if they'd still honor that.  Plus the newer gun would be.....a newer gun.   The barrel length wouldn't be 6.5, but 6".

On the negative, I don't want a gun where the cylinder might not hold together.

Problem solved.  All guns that passed inspection were stamped.............duh, not on the gun but on the box label!!!  Fortunately, I have the original box and label and the Red "C" indicates it was not a recalled one.   (Now that I think about it, it might not be the "original - original" box, but the one that S&W shipped back to the buyer/dealer.)  Doesn't matter.  Mine's okay.



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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 02:19:02 PM »
Good to hear!
I really didn't want to take the 'shine' off your new purchase, but I didn't want to have to call you Ol' Three Fingers either.

Just checked my email - "package delivered". Gotta go!
   
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 02:58:44 PM »
Alf, I give, what is the third gun?


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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2010, 04:42:55 PM »
Model 66 (357 mag) Pictures and report in the morning  :'(
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Re: New but Old S&W --- THEY're H-E-R-E-E-E-E
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2010, 09:18:38 PM »
They are nothing but sweet alf. Congratulations. Great additions.

Perfect revolver "iron"...something to hand down one day.

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