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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 11:50:47 AM »
When I worked in the IT dept. of a local school district, we were exempt from SS but paid the same percentage to a privately run but state regulated retirement company.  The school district matched our contribution, just like an employer would under SS.

The big difference was that no one could touch the contributions.  The organization handling the funds would invest them keeping to the state rules about such investments.

Our department would visit their IT dept. on occasion as a tech exchange experience.  We immediately noticed that everything was state of the art.  When we asked about it, it was explained that the investment folks were doing such a good job that the income was above what was allowed by state law so they had to increase expenses.  Modern furniture, fixtures, new computers ever six months or more, they has to spill money just to stay legal.  And the retirement benefits were still better than what would be paid by SS.

Sickens me to think how the general populace has been robbed by SS.  

While I don't agree with S.S. to begin with, the real problem started when congress decided to take it out of the trust so they could use that money for other things. Ever since then it has become a giant ponzy scheme that Bernie Madoff would be proud of.
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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 11:56:21 AM »
When I worked in the IT dept. of a local school district, we were exempt from SS but paid the same percentage to a privately run but state regulated retirement company.  The school district matched our contribution, just like an employer would under SS.

The big difference was that no one could touch the contributions.  The organization handling the funds would invest them keeping to the state rules about such investments.

Our department would visit their IT dept. on occasion as a tech exchange experience.  We immediately noticed that everything was state of the art.  When we asked about it, it was explained that the investment folks were doing such a good job that the income was above what was allowed by state law so they had to increase expenses.  Modern furniture, fixtures, new computers ever six months or more, they has to spill money just to stay legal.  And the retirement benefits were still better than what would be paid by SS.

Sickens me to think how the general populace has been robbed by SS.

It isn't SS that is screwing the American public. It was a good idea, and it was probably the only Govt. social program that ever actually worked.
There are 2 reasons it is now broke.
The first was the out right theft committed by DEM, Johnson by taking OUR money out of the legally mandated trust fund to fund his totally useless "Great Society" welfare boondoggle.
The Second was the decision, based on Al Gores deciding vote, to give OUR money to illegal aliens.
No matter how often the DEMS lie about Reps. "destroying Social security". The truth remains that it is in fact another victim of  the criminality underlying the entire Dem agenda.

In a "RICO" Indictment this would be considered a "predicate offense", when combined with things like Obummercare's unconstitutional clauses, and Congresses continuing refusal to enforce their own immigration laws by cracking down on illegal immigration, it constitutes a pattern of continuing criminal activity putting them in exactly the same category as the Mafia.

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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 09:05:23 PM »
It isn't SS that is screwing the American public. It was a good idea, and it was probably the only Govt. social program that ever actually worked.
There are 2 reasons it is now broke.
The first was the out right theft committed by DEM, Johnson by taking OUR money out of the legally mandated trust fund to fund his totally useless "Great Society" welfare boondoggle.
The Second was the decision, based on Al Gores deciding vote, to give OUR money to illegal aliens.
No matter how often the DEMS lie about Reps. "destroying Social security". The truth remains that it is in fact another victim of  the criminality underlying the entire Dem agenda.

In a "RICO" Indictment this would be considered a "predicate offense", when combined with things like Obummercare's unconstitutional clauses, and Congresses continuing refusal to enforce their own immigration laws by cracking down on illegal immigration, it constitutes a pattern of continuing criminal activity putting them in exactly the same category as the Mafia.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the mafia have (continue to have) strong ties to unions?
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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 09:11:24 PM »
As well as the Democratic Party. 

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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 09:20:12 PM »
usmcdadx2,

Can you explain to me what the issue is that they can't vote with these clowns AWOL?  There are only fourteen of them on the run.  Does Wisconsin have some whacky thing that says they have to be there?

AP is reporting today that "the GOP orders Troopers" to round them up.  Yesterday it was the Gov. that ordered the Troopers to find them and hall them back.  Today the majority leader went with the Troopers to get one, but he didn't answer the door at his home.

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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 09:26:52 PM »
Texas Dems ran for a re-districting vote, it eventually passed but,....remember the Lib mantra,....

"I'll take my toys and go home, if I don't get what I want".....

Just like a 4 year old.
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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 09:48:45 PM »
usmcdadx2,

Can you explain to me what the issue is that they can't vote with these clowns AWOL?  There are only fourteen of them on the run.  Does Wisconsin have some whacky thing that says they have to be there?

AP is reporting today that "the GOP orders Troopers" to round them up.  Yesterday it was the Gov. that ordered the Troopers to find them and hall them back.  Today the majority leader went with the Troopers to get one, but he didn't answer the door at his home.

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M58, they need to have a quaruum to vote. there are not enough Republicans to form one, they are one body short.

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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2011, 10:13:48 PM »
Rope!  >:(
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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2011, 12:17:24 AM »
Rope!  >:(

  Warm body       ;D

Based on the size they need 20 members for a quarum, there are only 19 Republicans.   Seems small but I think that was the number I saw on Fox

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Re: Pass the popcorn! Wisconsin Dems running away!
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2011, 09:13:42 AM »
  Warm body       ;D

Based on the size they need 20 members for a quarum, there are only 19 Republicans.   Seems small but I think that was the number I saw on Fox

There must be a process for declaring a member delinquent and replacing them.  Probably some length of time as a No Show...even if their whereabouts are known.

Wonder how long before that kicks in.   

I'd imagine the Gov. might have some authority to appoint a replacement.

I'd sit tight if I were in charge of the Republicans and start that process.  See who flinches first.
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