Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Campuses Carry

[MikeBjerum]

in 1776 we actually had a chance.  CCW a right, not a chance in hell to win in court.  

I don't give a damn about CCW!!!  Who made you believe that "concealed carry" is the way to go?

Repeat after me everyone -

What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?

As Ted Nugent says - The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution IS my carry permit!

The more I see our Rights whittled away by both sides, handed over by people that claim they care, and personal choices turned into rights by the Courts, the more I dig my heels in.

By the way, who thought we had a snowball's chance in hell in D.C. and Chicago?

I am struggling for the actual quote and the movie right now, but the basic thought is

As long as there is a fool to believe there is a chance.

[TAB]

Oh you mean ted that got him sworn in as a LEO so he could carry in 50 states ted?



Trying to get carry thru the court system is a losing deal.  you want carry, work on good PR( not like the idiots did in SD) and your reps.

[MikeBjerum]

Oh you mean ted that got him sworn in as a LEO so he could carry in 50 states ted?

Just like many other Americans have done, and like I am working on right now ... So BITE ME!


Trying to get carry thru the court system is a losing deal.  you want carry, work on good PR( not like the idiots did in SD) and your reps.

I understand the United Kingdom is accepting new citizens at this time.  Why don't you head on over there with the rest of the whipped pups that neutered themselves and gave it all away.

The only lost cause is the one with no one willing to fight for it!

[TAB]

so how would you go about arguing this in court?

saying" shall not be infringed" in court will get you basicly luaghed out of court.


I'm not a fan of open carry, it has nothing to do with rather it should be legal or not.  it has every thing to do with the mind set of many those that do OC and those around them.

if you go to every single gun forum on the web, you will find atleast one person that was ocing just to cuase a conflict.   What happen in SD is a perfect example of what NOT TO DO.  Did it get attention?  yep, was it posative?  not in the least.

I am a big fan of laws like TEXAS 30.06 law. 

[1911 Junkie]

So, any fight that you may not win is not worth fighting?

If you were walking down the street and 6 guys decided they were going to kill you and rape your wife, you wouldn't fight back because you probably wouldn't win?

Sometimes you have to fight for your principles no matter what the odds.

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[TAB]

no, I'm saying a legal fight where your chances of winning are zero, is a waste of time/money/effort.

If you are fighting for a cuase, your time/money/effort would be better used for other methods of fighting for said cuase.

[MikeBjerum]

no, I'm saying a legal fight where your chances of winning are zero, is a waste of time/money/effort.

If you are fighting for a cuase, your time/money/effort would be better used for other methods of fighting for said cuase.

 

Even with my tificate that says I gadgiated from a high school in the people's republic I don't speak that brand of TAB 

[Timothy]

Even with my tificate that says I gadgiated from a high school in the people's republic I don't speak that brand of TAB 

Too much education is a dangerous thing......TAB is a true example of that, he's said he has a Masters Degree.....from where is any ones guess...

[TAB]

Its in math...

m58 let me put it too you like this...


lets just say your kid brings home his report card, and has a F in math.  you go to talk to the teacher and ask why.  The teacher says your kid never turns in home work, failed every single test and does nothing but talk none stop in class.  they go on to explain thier grading system how its a basic % system and the average student got 85%+.

would you argue with the teacher saying the grading is unfair, or would you deal with your kid?

which would be a better use of your time?

[MikeBjerum]

So, you fight the fight!  I doesn't matter what angle you are coming from as long as you are doing it.

The problem with your example is you blame us (the kid).  The problem IS in the Courts (the teacher).  The primary problem is that the Courts have taken our Rights from us ignoring the Bill of Rights.  The secondary problem is that we did not start fighting until after the first major hit back in 1968, and by the time we were ramped up more had been done.  Then we topped it off by letting whipped pups like you guide the debate from our side. 

In a nutshell using your example, this is a case where the teacher is in the wrong, but the kid also needs to work harder.  However, the kid needs to work harder at what the teacher does not want.

Step one is that we need to quit doing as the teacher says, and get the superintendent to correct the lesson plan and grading curve to match the rules of the school.

Read the Second Amendment and the writings of the authors, and then come back and tell us where it says that only arms with hunting and sporting purposes, and without scary options are protected and allowed.  Better yet, in 500 words give us a paper supporting the California listing of "allowed" handguns.  Defend your State's stance on large caliber firearms.  Tell us why we should continue to fight for the Rights of people like you rather than calling for an out right boycott of all things firearms on the State of California.