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.45ACP Oddity
« on: April 28, 2011, 07:45:14 AM »
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One of these things is not like the other.
One of these things doesn't belong.
Can you tell which one is not like the other?




I knew they existed, I had just never seen one, before, much less had one in my brass stock.   Doesn't do good things to a large primer trying to stuff it in a small pocket.   For those who are numbers oriented, small primer pockets measure a shade over 0.17" while large pockets are a shade over 0.20"

The thought, I'm guessing is that small primers are cheaper and that the difference in small and large primers isn't that great.  Or at least isn't as great as say 100 years ago.  And that may work very well for low pressure small case rounds like the .45ACP.  And it would simplify my primer stocking if one size fit all, but I'd like to think that larger primers with larger flash holes are better for larger diameter ammo, like .45 and .44s

Just be careful out there.  Inspect, inspect, inspect.

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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 08:45:40 AM »
I was given a BUCKET full of these for next to nothing and am happily reloading them - I use the Lyman Ram prime instead of my usual 310 tool for priming and so long as I make sure the case lines up nice it works good.  I use moderate charge of Red Dot / Promo and it goes bang
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 09:05:34 AM »
It would be nice to know how the round was loaded.  Manufacturers loading "green" ammunition seem to be stuck using small primers for everything.  Something to do with the priming compound and pressures. IIRC.
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 11:17:14 AM »
Casings with the Small primer pockets are usually marked NT , like Junkie mentioned, they are Non Toxic.

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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 11:44:41 AM »
I'm sure that if you inspect 1,000 you will pick up on the size, but the only difference I see is the dots before and after the name Federal.  Looks like an issue like accidentally running into WinClean.
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 12:17:18 PM »
I recently read a post on another forum which mentioned SPP used in .45 cases that were not marked NT.  Can't remember if/what the explanation was.

Richard

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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 11:40:22 AM »
I got in the habit of inspecting 45 range brass after cleaning, for just this reason. When I get enough to reload 50 at a time, I'll start. Right now there are just 4 or 5 per every couple of hundred I bring back from the range.
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 11:55:04 AM »
I'd scrap them or trade them... 45 acp brass is easy to find and cheap to buy.  I'd much rather not have to do another sorting step.  Don't even mention reseting up the press.
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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 06:57:37 PM »
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=15211.0

I started a thread on this a few threads down on the same page. I bought a box of Federal Champion .45 ACP from Wal-Mart a couple of months back, and when I got home I found out they had small primer pockets. I'll most likely let the brass fly. It's not worth it to segregate it for 50 lousy rounds.  Bill T.

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Re: .45ACP Oddity
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 07:17:43 PM »
At the range where I serve as an RSO we sell bags of fired brass. The .45ACP is $5 per hundred or so, and we make a point of saying the baggie may include some small primer - we don't sort for anything but caliber.
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