Crop Dusting Hogs.

[r_w]

Is that how they make Democrats ?

Gabby Giffords- proof not all democrats are zombies.



 

[sledgemeister]

And here I was going to say he could have used a scope and some shooting lessons. Look, I get that this is pest control not hunting. Sporting plays zero part in the game. But the quick clean kill rule still applies, and 9 out of ten isn't good enough. Not saying you call PETA or anything, but there are ways to be more accurate, like putting a set of Mossy ghost rings on the thing, or using an Eotech, or going with something like an AR-10 with a red dot (which seems MADE for this duty, and please may I sign up?). Not to be a buzz kill, but I do get a bit bitchy about the whole "quick and clean" thing when it comes to live targets. Its a moral obligation.
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[PegLeg45]

Is that how they make Democrats ?

Don't know if that's how they make 'em....but it might take care of quite a few......and would save on bullets, rope, and poles.     

[fightingquaker13]

Him, you can shoot from a helicopter without a scope. But wouldn't Mrs. PhilW be upset?
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[sledgemeister]

you do know thats not what kills them right?

they then have thier throats cut and they bleed to death.   the bolt stunner is just so they don't feel pain.

Isnt it lucky nature isnt so choosy when animals eat one another. We (some) get all cut up (pardon pun) about taking more than one shot to kill an animal, and howmany bites, claws, pecking etc does it take an animal to kill its prey. I wonder does a lioness think to herself while she slowy stangles and claws a zebra "oh only if I had a bolt gun it would be so much kinder" or does a Eagle think "I wish some one would teach me how to electrocute the fish I catch out of the river so when I impale them it doesnt hurt too much"

Pffft We strive to be as humane as possible, it doesnt mean we stop doing these things because 1 in 10 is not a instant death, we may as well join the lettuce eating tofu nutjobs if that was the case.
Ethics are for people who have the luxury to miss and not go hungry, try telling that to a native american back in the day or a zulu tribesman, I wonder if they would think "oh wait before I throw my spear" will it be a head shot" or does one think they though "shit food, throw something at the bastard so it cant run away" lol

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[fightingquaker13]

Sledge, if you think I'm the poster boy for PETA, you have been reading a very different board than the one I've been posting on. A dead pig is bacon. A live pig is tommorow's bacon. I'm just saying that if you can spend a few bucks and a few hours on the range to get cleaner kills, you should. But, its your call, and you don't need me telling me that you want to put an animal down cleanly do you? Hell, your momma and your granddaddy taught you that.
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[tombogan03884]

Actually most predators, opportunity presenting, will go for a single strike kill, such as a neck breaking bite, simply for reasons of economy of energy.

[bodean87]

And here I was going to say he could have used a scope and some shooting lessons. Look, I get that this is pest control not hunting. Sporting plays zero part in the game. But the quick clean kill rule still applies, and 9 out of ten isn't good enough. Not saying you call PETA or anything, but there are ways to be more accurate, like putting a set of Mossy ghost rings on the thing, or using an Eotech, or going with something like an AR-10 with a red dot (which seems MADE for this duty, and please may I sign up?). Not to be a buzz kill, but I do get a bit bitchy about the whole "quick and clean" thing when it comes to live targets. Its a moral obligation.
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I'm not sure how much hunting you have done, but there are very few quick kills. Most animals will run a little ways before they fall over. The guy can shoot also. Watch his shot placement. MOst of the pattern was on the head or chest. I do not remember seeing a single gut shot (I couild have missed one.) I have hunted pigs from the back of a moving truck and believe me its not an easy shot to make. There was only one pig that i saw that may have suffered, but If you havent made a bad shot you havent hunted much at all. It happens to the best of us. Thats why they invented the followup shot.

[Teresa Heilevang]

Hard to shoot out of a boat too.
Bodean... you're supposed to stop the truck.. slowly and quietly roll down the window.. hand your beer to someone to hold.. THEN shoot.. 

[fightingquaker13]

I'm not sure how much hunting you have done, but there are very few quick kills. Most animals will run a little ways before they fall over. The guy can shoot also. Watch his shot placement. MOst of the pattern was on the head or chest. I do not remember seeing a single gut shot (I couild have missed one.) I have hunted pigs from the back of a moving truck and believe me its not an easy shot to make. There was only one pig that i saw that may have suffered, but If you havent made a bad shot you havent hunted much at all. It happens to the best of us. Thats why they invented the followup shot.

I've hunted a lot and I have made a few bad shots. As you say it happens. The worst was on a young doe. It was an antler less hunt on a state property.That deer weighed 48 pounds field dressed, I carried her out on a shotgun sling over my shoulder (this wasn't unusual for Tx. Hill Country deer, they have big racks, but they run small). Anyway, I was basically shooting a poodle (though no AR was involved ). She jumped when I shot as she obviously saw me move and I hit her too far back. It took me over an hour to trail her, and she was ready to run again. All of this with a hole in her gut the size of my hand from where the .270 had hit. It blew up her stomach like a milk jug full of water and she still ran. It was both sickening and amazing. Sickening for obvious reasons and amazing at how far an adrenaline charged animal can go. This makes me  MORE of a stickler for the clean kill, not less so. I screwed up, I saw the result, I cleaned up my mess and I try not to let it happen again. It doesn't make me a saint, just responsible. I'm not  trying to cast the first stone, just saying that you want to aim your rocks as carefully as you can.
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