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Hazcat

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Re: You Juvenile Gun Owners you...
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2011, 01:18:24 PM »
HerkNav,
Freud saying that is a myth.
We were discussing "Separation of Church and state" and several of us found references that had the entirety of Jefferson's letter, try to find a valid attribution for the alleged Freud quote.

While what you say is true    

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* A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.


          o This is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:

        Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership.

    Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages

This part is close enough for me ;
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The Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons.
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Re: You Juvenile Gun Owners you...
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2011, 01:30:01 PM »
We on the other hand are much more well adjusted. ::) ;D
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Re: You Juvenile Gun Owners you...
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 02:08:06 PM »
Thanks Haz. Now I can go back to using the reference as well .

For once FQ posts something totally appropriate to the subject, or at least to where it's drifted to.  ;D

 

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