What's Up With The Riots In The UK?

[Ping]

Made me break out my olde Clash albums. Listened to "London's Burning" and "White Riot". Insane over there. Just hope this crap does not spread to the United States.

[Badgersmilk]

God willing this will wake them the hell up and they'll start demanding US style laws. I wouldn't mind seeing the NRA using my dues to do a bit of foriegn outreach here.
FQ13

Using history as my guide...  I don't see the citizens (here or there) coming out ahead on any of this when the dust settles.  My prediction is government will just crack down on us harder with more restrictions and laws to guide there herds.   

[tombogan03884]

More likely it will increase the divide. Regardless of the surface changes, society will pull back from the problem areas to more strongly defend the more upper crust areas.
Law, order, and the 21st century inside the gated communities, dog eat dog barbarism in the rest of the urban environment.

[Badgersmilk]

More likely it will increase the divide. Regardless of the surface changes, society will pull back from the problem areas to more strongly defend the more upper crust areas.
Law, order, and the 21st century inside the gated communities, dog eat dog barbarism in the rest of the urban environment.

That's a really good concept / reality I hadn't even thought of.  Practical, and makes good sense.  

Expounding on that...  I might suppose cities having "Private Police Forces" similar to the "contractors" operating on our behalf in Iraq.  Even then paying particular attention to some neighborhoods within each city more so than others.  Gated communities are already on the up-rise around here anyway.  

One city near here that is well known as "The Grand Strand Ghetto", Atlantic Beach, has already fired their entire police force due to "departmental corruption" and their inability to pay them because that city has gone bankrupt from other corruption, embezzling and usual ghetto town issues.  All the while Myrtle Beach and other neighboring cities are actually doing well this season!!!  Atlantic Beach is publicly pleading with the neighboring cities to "adopt" them.    

So yeah.  What you say is already happening under my nose and I didn't even see it!  

http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=647712#.TkKu3mM4nVk

[Badgersmilk]

D#$% IT!     We could have moved into a gated community for something like another $50 a month and I didn't because only a few months back it "seemed kinda snobby"...  GREAT TOM!  NOW you make me think about all this stuff!   

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[tombogan03884]

D#$% IT!     We could have moved into a gated community for something like another $50 a month and I didn't because only a few months back it "seemed kinda snobby"...  GREAT TOM!  NOW you make me think about all this stuff!   

Actually I think I'd prefer to be OUTSIDE the gated communities.
It may not be safer, but it lets you keep more options open unless you are one of the "It's the law" sheep.
While San Fransisco did lose on banning guns in public housing gated communities can institute any rules they want as it is not law you must obey, it is a contractual condition that you agree to when you join.
How many stories have we seen recently about HOA's trying to punish a resident for displaying the American flag ?

[Badgersmilk]

Need a little riot control you say?

http://video.godlikeproductions.com/video/Flash_Bang_Nut_Shot_Vancouver_Canucks_Riot_2011?id=c78017c67eb862914a0

[Solus]

Brits are considering asking US LEOs for pointers on dealing with riots.

Excerpt:

Britain's Parliament was called back from its summer break for an emergency debate on the riots Thursday, with Cameron promising authorities would get strong powers to stop street mayhem from erupting again.

He said authorities were considering new powers, including allowing police to order thugs to remove masks or hoods, evicting troublemakers from subsidized housing and temporarily disabling cell phone instant messaging services.

He told lawmakers that he would look to cities like Boston for inspiration, and mentioned former Los Angeles, New York and Boston Police Chief William Bratton as a person who could help offer advice.

Bratton said in a statement he'd be "pleased and honored" to provide services and counsel in any capacity, adding that he loves London and has worked with British police for nearly 20 years.

Cameron also said the government, police and intelligence services were looking at whether there should be limits on the use of social media sites like Twitter and Facebook or services like BlackBerry Messenger to spread disorder.

BlackBerry's simple and largely cost free messaging service was used by rioters to coordinate their activities, Cameron's office said.

The government said it planned to hold talks with police chiefs, Twitter, Facebook and Blackberry manufacturer Research In Motion Ltd.



Full link here.  http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/12/man-arrested-over-murder-london-riot-victim/?test=latestnews

[tombogan03884]

Brits are considering asking US LEOs for pointers on dealing with riots.

Excerpt:

Britain's Parliament was called back from its summer break for an emergency debate on the riots Thursday, with Cameron promising authorities would get strong powers to stop street mayhem from erupting again.

He said authorities were considering new powers, including allowing police to order thugs to remove masks or hoods, evicting troublemakers from subsidized housing and temporarily disabling cell phone instant messaging services.

He told lawmakers that he would look to cities like Boston for inspiration, and mentioned former Los Angeles, New York and Boston Police Chief William Bratton as a person who could help offer advice.

Bratton said in a statement he'd be "pleased and honored" to provide services and counsel in any capacity, adding that he loves London and has worked with British police for nearly 20 years.

Cameron also said the government, police and intelligence services were looking at whether there should be limits on the use of social media sites like Twitter and Facebook or services like BlackBerry Messenger to spread disorder.

BlackBerry's simple and largely cost free messaging service was used by rioters to coordinate their activities, Cameron's office said.

The government said it planned to hold talks with police chiefs, Twitter, Facebook and Blackberry manufacturer Research In Motion Ltd.



Full link here.  http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/12/man-arrested-over-murder-london-riot-victim/?test=latestnews

Apparently the Brits aren't aware of baseballs 3 strike rule.
This would be the last freaking guy I would ask for advice.

[Solus]

I just love the irony.

For years Liberals have been touting Great Britain as and example of how a civilized country should be run...urging us to follow their example.