National Reciprocity, HR 822, Not Going Away. Judicial Hearings Tomorrow

[twyacht]

Seems there are more Pro-Gun folks than anti's this time....

Here's a link to the members on that committee. The Dems, stack it well, but it seems the Rep. are getting it.

http://judiciary.house.gov/about/members.html

http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/09/witness-list-for-house-judiciary.html

Monday, September 12, 2011
Witness List For House Judiciary Hearing On HR 822

The House Judiciary Committee has released their witness list for tomorrow's hearing on HR 822 - the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011. It includes some very familiar names.

    Witness List


    Ms. Joyce Lee Malcolm
    Professor of Law
    George Mason University


    Mr. David B. Kopel
    Adjunct Professor
    Denver University Sturm College of Law


    Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey
    Philadelphia Police Department

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey previously served as head of D.C.'s Metro Police Department. Prior to that he served in the Chicago Police Department for almost 30 years rising to the level of Deputy Superintendent. That background combined with the way the Philly PD has been treating gun owners leads me to believe that Ramsey will be the token witness to testify against HR 822.

Both Joyce Lee Malcolm and Dave Kopel have strong pro-gun credentials.

As Sebastian of Snowflakes in Hell notes today, "Let the hysterics begin." I think we can fully expect more counter-attacks on H.R. 822 by the likes of Mayor Bloomberg, the Brady Campaign, and VPC.
Posted by John Richardson at 3:24 PM

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Just like Florida standardizing state firearms laws, our country would benefit from a National Reciprocity Act. Remember this is for the law abiding folks....that go through the forms, fingerprints, fees, classes, qualifications, bells, hoops, and whistles, to adhere to what is otherwise a Constitutional Amendment.

Jump in folks, send an email, take a moment, regardless of whether it's read or not...Keep Pushing. The anti's are always pushing, and than it's a shove,....and than WE SHOVE BACK...

[alfsauve]

[some sniping of the post]
Seems there are more Pro-Gun folks than anti's this time....
As Sebastian of Snowflakes in Hell notes today, "Let the hysterics begin." I think we can fully expect more counter-attacks on H.R. 822 by the likes of Mayor Bloomberg, the Brady Campaign, and VPC.

Why yes the hysterics has begun.   YOU OTHER STATES.   SHAME ON YOU.   You're letting "domestic abusers, drug addicts, stalkers, people with violent arrest records, or people with absolutely no training" get a concealed gun permit.  WOW.  I didn't know the Brady Bunch held Ga CCW in such high esteem.   OH WAIT.  We don't require training either.     Gee I wonder if they sent the same memo, just changed the name of the state to other people?   YA THINK?

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
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STOP DANGEROUS PEOPLE FROM PACKING HEAT ON YOUR STREET
E-mail the House Judiciary Committee Today!

Dear Alfred stupid sucker,

On Tuesday, September 13, a U.S. House Subcommittee will hear testimony on gun lobby legislation, H.R. 822, which would force Georgia to allow dangerous individuals from out-of-state to carry loaded guns in your community.

The bill appears to be on the "fast track" and the full House Judiciary Committee could vote as early as next week.

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E-mail the full House Judiciary Committee today!
One click e-mails the entire committee:
http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/R?i=3j-d-9QbmLfztiKfj5aJtA

"Vote 'NO' on H.R. 822.  Stop dangerous people from packing heat on my street."
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If the Washington gun lobby and their allies in Congress get their way, your state will no longer be able to make its own decisions about who can carry a hidden, loaded gun.

Domestic abusers, drug addicts, stalkers, people with violent arrest records, or people with absolutely no training could be granted a concealed gun permit in another state, and Georgia would have to honor it -- no matter what.

After you've emailed the committee, please also forward this message to your family and friends: http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/R?i=BPb3eihEAQdZaZtnIuLcAg

Sincerely,
Dennis Henigan, Acting President
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

[tombogan03884]

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not.
First off even if they do pass it there will be 10 years or so of hearings, talks, and committees to iron out details of a permit process that satisfies all 50 states. While that might be good for currently screwed states like Ill, Md and Haw. it's not so good for States like Me, NH and Vt.
Second, it gets the Federal Govt involved in something that has previously been handled entirely at the state level.
In fact, it will leave Vt screwed since they don't regulate CCW at all, they don't even have a mechanism to print, let alone issue permits.

[TAB]

ITs a bad thing.   states have diffrent laws on CCW.  On who can get it( or I should say who can't), how it can be done, where it can be done... etc

don't get me started on the diffrent use of force laws.  Not to mention it will insure states that do not have ccw now will never have it.

[JC5123]

ITs a bad thing.   states have diffrent laws on CCW.  On who can get it( or I should say who can't), how it can be done, where it can be done... etc

don't get me started on the diffrent use of force laws.  Not to mention it will insure states that do not have ccw now will never have it.

Explain your logic here? This is a step in the right direction. If ALL states have to recognize CCW permits from every other state doesn't that work to help those states that don't allow CCW? Because since they have to permit people from out of state to carry, they no longer have an argument against letting their residents also carry.   

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[TAB]

Lets just take IL as a example... they don't have ccw.  If by some means they were to get ccw, it would have to be extremely restrictive.


This is about how it would play out.

" we can't have ccw, if we do we must honor all those other states that give them to any one. there will be blood in the streets, its for the children..."

Trust me, that is exactly how it will play out, they will use fear and lies to insure it never happens.


you have to remember some states will give you a ccw, if you have a minor drug convictions, others won't.   I can see it now, being denyed in one state, some one moves to a diffrent state in which they could get a CCW, but are denyed becuase of the other states denial.   Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when and which state.

[Solus]

ITs a bad thing.   states have diffrent laws on CCW.  On who can get it( or I should say who can't), how it can be done, where it can be done... etc

don't get me started on the diffrent use of force laws.  Not to mention it will insure states that do not have ccw now will never have it.

Very similar to the differences the states have in issuing and renewing drivers licenses.  Different traffic laws in different states, different penalties for violations, the whole gamut.

Think of the mess that would be created if they had national reciprocity with drivers licenses?  Carnage on the highways and byways.

[PegLeg45]

Very similar to the differences the states have in issuing and renewing drivers licenses.  Different traffic laws in different states, different penalties for violations, the whole gamut.

Think of the mess that would be created if they had national reciprocity with drivers licenses?  Carnage on the highways and byways.

 

[Hazcat]

Very similar to the differences the states have in issuing and renewing drivers licenses.  Different traffic laws in different states, different penalties for violations, the whole gamut.

Think of the mess that would be created if they had national reciprocity with drivers licenses?  Carnage on the highways and byways.

Won't somebody think of the CHILDRENS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Solus]

Won't somebody think of the CHILDRENS!!!!!!!!!!!

That was gonna be my come back should my opinion have taken flack.  

"It's to keep drunks and speeders and criminals off our streets!.  Think of the Children!"



good idea to keep the children off the streets too