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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2011, 06:53:47 AM »
You are correct, Ksail.

I have seen folks object to the use of the word 'euthanasia' because they said it reminded them of the gas chambers used by the NAZIs.

I was in conversation with a Rabbi one time, who spent a considerable amount of time talking about how Jews should not define their Judaism by the Holocaust, that this experience was so negative that to do that was to violate God's law.

Later, when I posited that Jews - especially those embracing the "green" mindset - should consider cremation as an "earth-friendly" alternative to expensive burials, he did not quote Scripture about our bodies being a gift from God or that we should not knowingly destroy our bodies per God's law, nothing like that. No, he actually said - it was too soon after the crematoria of the extermination camps to consider that.

When I reminded him of his earlier comment, all I got was a dirty look.

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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2011, 08:38:17 AM »
Haz should send Hank a  PM .

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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2011, 10:10:41 AM »
I was in conversation with a Rabbi one time, who spent a considerable amount of time talking about how Jews should not define their Judaism by the Holocaust, that this experience was so negative that to do that was to violate God's law.

Later, when I posited that Jews - especially those embracing the "green" mindset - should consider cremation as an "earth-friendly" alternative to expensive burials, he did not quote Scripture about our bodies being a gift from God or that we should not knowingly destroy our bodies per God's law, nothing like that. No, he actually said - it was too soon after the crematoria of the extermination camps to consider that.

When I reminded him of his earlier comment, all I got was a dirty look.

Just cuz they feel don't mean they think!

Many Christians have concerns about cremation. 

From what I have found, it seems to stem from a literal and illogical interpretation of Isaiah 26:19 which mentions rising from dust or the earth.

There is not much left of a corpse buried for thousands of years but it is expected to be restored and raised.  Maybe cremated remains will be beyond God's ability to restore them?
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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 12:38:17 PM »
"Ashes to ashes and dust to dust" when I'm done with the vessel I don't care what they do with it.

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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 02:16:47 PM »
"Ashes to ashes and dust to dust" when I'm done with the vessel I don't care what they do with it.

There are folks who worry they aren't done with it, as a literal interpretation of the Bible might lead one to believe that their physical corpse will be risen.  Not much will be there if you bury it, less if it is cremated. 

I used to wonder if it you lived to old age, you would be resurrected in your 85 year old worn out body to live in for eternity and maybe there was a reason "the good die young".

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2011, 03:01:24 PM »
There are folks who worry they aren't done with it, as a literal interpretation of the Bible might lead one to believe that their physical corpse will be risen.  Not much will be there if you bury it, less if it is cremated. 

I used to wonder if it you lived to old age, you would be resurrected in your 85 year old worn out body to live in for eternity and maybe there was a reason "the good die young".

Cremation is cheaper...fine with me.  No offense to those in the industry but I wouldn't give a funeral home a nickle of my money to plant my ass.  You can pre-arrange for your own cremation here in MA for under a grand.

I've donated my body to the local medical school just like my parents did.  We got my Dad back about a year later in a UPS parcel.  Didn't cost anyone a dime.

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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2011, 12:08:29 AM »
Cremation is cheaper...fine with me.  No offense to those in the industry but I wouldn't give a funeral home a nickle of my money to plant my ass.  You can pre-arrange for your own cremation here in MA for under a grand.

I've donated my body to the local medical school just like my parents did.  We got my Dad back about a year later in a UPS parcel.  Didn't cost anyone a dime.
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That's what what my grandma did, and my old man has that in in his living will. Although he has vowed that since the body is to go to the University of Miami, I am to have a Florida Gators logo tattooed on his ass before he is delivered ;D. I will be following suite. Funny (if you like black comedy) story is that when UM sent back grandma's urn for the internment the funeral home folks didn't show up to bury her. Dad and my Uncle Tom went to Wallmart and bought a post hole digger and laid her to rest. Straight up redneck. You've got to love it. ;D :'( Me, I figure that if God can judge my immortal soul and make the heavens and the earth he can figure out what to do with my cremated remains. If he can't I've been wasting a lot of Sunday mornings. ;)
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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2011, 09:39:13 AM »
Cremation is cheaper...fine with me.  No offense to those in the industry but I wouldn't give a funeral home a nickle of my money to plant my ass.  You can pre-arrange for your own cremation here in MA for under a grand.

I've donated my body to the local medical school just like my parents did. We got my Dad back about a year later in a UPS parcel.  Didn't cost anyone a dime.

LOL!  Good Tuesday morning to you sir!

We buried my Grandpa, in a sheet metal box he made for the occasion  :), on my Grandma's plot a couple of years ago, 5 or 6 years after he died because the B#$@* he married couldn't stand the thought that he wanted to be buried with his wife.  But she didn't have a problem sending her son and grandson on a Mexican vacation two weeks after the funeral. 
We did finally get the family mineral rights to the homestead up in ND, helped my parents, aunts and uncles out quite a bit.  She had tried to give them to her nephew because Medicare was coming after her assets. 
I got my grandpas Snap-On roller circa 1950s at that time, spent a weekend with WD-40 and a couple of rolls of shop towels cleaning it and talking to him.
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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2011, 10:51:07 AM »
When my dad passed in 1970 the funeral home folks assured us that, so long as the seal on his burial vault wasn't broken, he would look the same in 1000 years as he did the day he was buried.  Not sure how one verifies that guarantee, but whatever.
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Re: I Like Hank Jr. Better When He Is Being Hank Jr.
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2011, 11:54:52 AM »
When my dad passed in 1970 the funeral home folks assured us that, so long as the seal on his burial vault wasn't broken, he would look the same in 1000 years as he did the day he was buried.  Not sure how one verifies that guarantee, but whatever.

Doesn't sound likely.....and, knowing the process of embalming, I don't see cremation as much of a difference.

I'd prefer to be cremated, but I've always wanted a tombstone.   From parts of this thread, it sounds like the ashes can be interned?..would that be with a head stone?

I want one because, years ago, someone asked me what I would want on it and  this popped into my mind   "Don't Laugh, You Could be Next".

Felt it might bring a bright spot to those visiting their deceased loved ones.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
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"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
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