Anyone make the transition to the FIST-FIRE method?

[CDR]

D.R.

Great stuff!!  A question......I assume that FIST-FIRE works equally well with revolvers as with pistols but I'm not sure.  Is there an indexing advantage provided by the flat slide of a pistol versus the round barrel of a revolver or does that not play into your method?  Would it work well with a snubnose revolver at distance?

Thanks

[Hazcat]

D.R.

Great stuff!!  A question......I assume that FIST-FIRE works equally well with revolvers as with pistols but I'm not sure.  Is there an indexing advantage provided by the flat slide of a pistol versus the round barrel of a revolver or does that not play into your method?  Would it work well with a snubnose revolver at distance?

Thanks

Good questions! (like you need my approval  )  I'll be interested in those answers.

[davidrus]

I've been making the transition.
Just understanding the grip angle and the slight change in how I hold the gun has made a world of difference to me.

I have a hard time seeing my front sight, but my distance vision is good.  Since I don't have reading glasses on all of the time, I've got to make the switch to no sight shooting.  This method works well for me.  I've spent a lot of time just practicing drawing my pistol and pointing, when I check the sights I'm usually dead on.

The #2 DVD was very helpful.  Also, I ordered the sunglasses and the checkout process made me check out twice with two shipping charges.  The second shipping charge was refunded without my asking. 
People who are ethical in the small things are usually ethical in the big things.

David Russell

[astrong]

I have a 1911A1 full size and equipped with a Crimson Trace Laser Grip.
I have been practising point shooting using the laser when I run across Dr.Middlebrook`s video.
When shooting at the range  I focus on the target and bring the pistol in to view.
 I just use the same sight picture that I use with the Laser
It works!! I can hit the target every time all the way to 10 yards.
I am 78 years old and my eyes are not what they used to be.
I am anxious to read more on his thecnique

[Bob Cannon]

WIth regard to the point shooting DVD"s. Can the average Joe who is 60 buy your DVD's and learn you method. Will he beable to defend himself better or just get himself hurt, thiinking he has been trained?

Thanks,
BRC

I'm, a retired police officer in Houston.

[Sponsor]

[2HOW]

From what Ive read this is another style of point shooting mixed with other techniques. I have been studying PS for some time and find it simple and effective. The convulsive grip is the key to the technique. This has been taught for years by people like Roger Phillips , Matt Tempkin and Tom Kohl. I have seen good progress and hits on the run after 1 lesson. If you are comfortable with your firearm and are mobile this is a great tool for your tool box. Many heated discussions have been had on the net by the MT guys and the PS guys, like I said just another tool for the tool box. The basic technique can be picked up on the net, and if practiced properly can be utilized effectively until you can polish it with proper instruction.  I should add that there are films on you tube showing point shooting .

[D.R. Middlebrooks]

WIth regard to the point shooting DVD"s. Can the average Joe who is 60 buy your DVD's and learn you method. Will he beable to defend himself better or just get himself hurt, thiinking he has been trained?

Thanks,
BRC

I'm, a retired police officer in Houston.

We filmed much of the DVD's in actual FIST-FIRE classes. We're also teaching off them in class now. It's a great tool for my Instructors, too.  It's the next best thing to being there...in an actual FIST-FIRE Class. 

D.R.

www.TacticalShooting.com

[D.R. Middlebrooks]

I have a 1911A1 full size and equipped with a Crimson Trace Laser Grip.
I have been practising point shooting using the laser when I run across Dr.Middlebrook`s video.
When shooting at the range  I focus on the target and bring the pistol in to view.
 I just use the same sight picture that I use with the Laser
It works!! I can hit the target every time all the way to 10 yards.
I am 78 years old and my eyes are not what they used to be.
I am anxious to read more on his thecnique

Lasers are definitely a great tool to train with...

Glad it's working out for you.

D.R.

www.TacticalShooting.com

[Tyler Durden]

@ D.R. Middlebrooks...

First off, do you have a YouTube channel where you might have some very abbreviated and/or edited clips from your DVD's uploaded?

I am kinda curious about this FIST-FIRE method.  I have taken one whole class from Dave Sevigny that lasted just one whole day.  In my later email exchanges with Dave Sevigny (of Team Glock fame, by the way), he brought up just passing-ly his involvement with this FIST-FIRE system.

Second, as far as that list goes with all the different match and division wins, would you care to add actual names to that list?

It is difficult for me to tell if you have just 5 disciples...err...FAST-FIRE sponsored shooters going around the country scooping up all these wins...or if you have 20 devout followers.

Which also begs the question....did these people start from scratch, green as grass to guns with the FIST-FIRE technique?

Or...

Were they already excellent shooters who then went on to sing the praises of the FIST-FIRE method?

Third...now don't get me wrong... I don't mean to rub you the wrong way...but I really do think that people have been beaten about the head and shoulders so much about sight picture, sight picture, SIGHT PICTURE!! that it has become a paradigm/dogma.

And consequently is like a stumbling block to shooting both quickly and accurately.

At across the room distances or down the alley distances, in my opinion, you do not need sights.

Or at the least you don't need a sight picture like this:   []_I_[]   in my opinion...

People are making it out harder than it should be.

FWIW... I am an IDPA National Champion too   ...and a B classed USPSA shooter.

Is it possible to UNlearn what you would consider my bad habits?

[Tyler Durden]

I went to the "Mother Ship" and did a search for Middlebrooks.

This thread right here:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47167&hl=middlebrooks

might be useful to some people who are skeptical.

I will let you all come away with your own conclusions after reading that thread.

I think if you put enough rounds downrange, you will just naturally come to that Eureka! moment where things just feel right (aka body index and/or natural point of aim) and you really don't need the sights at all.

I think a lot of the top USPSA shooters have travelled different routes, but eventually they all kinda reach the same conclusion that D.R. Middlebrooks did.  Sometimes you need the sights.  Sometimes you don't.

There isn't some magic elixir or some super secret handshake technique that will turn you into a Rob Leatham overnight.  That takes practice...concentrated and insightful practice...not just sending rounds downrange to go, "Oh, hey, look at me!  I sent 500 rounds downrange today...I am such the better shooter now."

You have to have a goal and milestones/objectives along the way.  Without that...well...you're just making noise... you might as well be setting off a pack of firecrackers.