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MikeBjerum

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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 03:55:21 PM »
There is another poll on what we see or think of ammo:

If Pres. BHO stays in you have exactly till the victory parties are over to purchase your guns and ammo boys and girls.  I firmly believe that when he told Hillary and Nancy that "now is not the time" he meant wait four years, and we will nail it all right after the reelection.  If he loses I see a lot of gamesmanship happening in his last month of dictatorship  >:(
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 03:55:59 PM »
The RINO's don't care if Romney OR BHO gets elected,...they care about getting the Senate back, and keeping the House. The want their pretty little Chairmanships, and Committee appts. That's their power base....It's all about the power...

The RINO's are counting on the true Conservatives to stay home and pout about the POTUS election,....because "they all suck" but my local, state, guys suck less....for Representatives and Senators....

Remember I think there are 19 Senate seats up for grabs, and 1/2 the House.

Don't sit out a vote for POTUS, and vote for "your" state "guy/girl".....

The gloves will come off if BHO is re-elected...and the DHS will be the new moderator of this website....

A great point.  I didn't anticipate staying home.  We need to send every US Rep in Oklahoma back home for good.  They voted with Obama on the economy and taxes...our Senators didn't, but the Reps did in fact sell us out.  So, I intend to particpate in the vote...but a vote for BHO or Romney is out of the question.
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 06:18:08 PM »
Tom,

How is Santorum a wasted vote? If he's on the ballot, he is a candidate.  If we believe he is the best choice we are voicing that opinion when we cast that vote.  To not like Romney but vote for him in a primary is to say we like him.  Vote for the candidate you believe in the most, and let your voice be heard.  The only time to vote for the lessors is when that is all that is left.  Maybe Santorum or Paul or Newt or Romney is a vote for the lessor, but the one you chose should be the one you agree with the most.

Remember that there are two major factors that have gotten us where we are:  One is special interest voting - voting just to get what you can for yourself; and the other is voting for who you think can win vs. who you really want or think should win.  Vote your conscience and don't look back at the what ifs!

As I said in my original post, he doesn't have the funds for the long run.

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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 06:46:25 PM »
He is in the race, he is a candidate, and if someone agrees with him he is a valid vote.  This isn't supposed to be about who can by the most beer on Friday night.

If I am a part of choosing him at our caucus on Tuesday evening and he drops out next month I have at least voiced my opinion of what I want.  Just like the year I was one of those that voted for Jessie Ventura because he best met our wishes.  We were all told we were wasting our votes.
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 08:35:36 PM »
He is in the race, he is a candidate, and if someone agrees with him he is a valid vote.  This isn't supposed to be about who can by the most beer on Friday night.

If I am a part of choosing him at our caucus on Tuesday evening and he drops out next month I have at least voiced my opinion of what I want.  Just like the year I was one of those that voted for Jessie Ventura because he best met our wishes.  We were all told we were wasting our votes.

Yep, you miss out on supporting some one who actually has a chance to beat Romney in order to support some one who has to hope for his tax return to continue his campaign.
Isn't that kind of thinking how we wound up with McCain ?

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Re: Something to keep in mind
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 08:47:50 PM »
Have we seen Tom join the main stream media and the rest of the sheeple?  Is Mr. Bogan telling me that it is more important to settle for more of the same than take a chance on making a difference?

Sorry Tom, but the only thing I can tell you for certain is that next Tuesday I will not be supporting the only candidate that you think has a chance.  I will not vote for a man that only has two differences between himself and Pres. BHO - The party designation after his name and his skin color.

If this goes the way you claim it will I will have some tough decisions to make in the fall.
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2012, 09:53:15 PM »
I have already been studying the electoral college map.

I have Obama at 239 votes, without Florida.  I think, if I remember correctly Florida has 29 votes or points.

You only need 270 to win.

So with Florida, Obama is sitting at 268.

We're screwed.

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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2012, 10:47:13 PM »
It is February 3rd and some ds for St. Louis is telling us the election is over
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2012, 10:42:58 AM »
I have already been studying the electoral college map.

I have Obama at 239 votes, without Florida.  I think, if I remember correctly Florida has 29 votes or points.

You only need 270 to win.

So with Florida, Obama is sitting at 268.

We're screwed.

What are you gonna do about it?  Bend over and say Thank You?

Or maybe get out and work your butt off to change it?

It's your butt either way.
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Re: Something to keep in mind
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2012, 11:03:05 AM »
No Matter What


By Dr. Walter Williams

Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can't. I am going on record as saying that President Barak Obama will win a second term.
The media won't tell you this because a good election campaign means hundreds of millions (or in Obama's case billions) of dollars to them in advertising.

But the truth is, there simply are no conditions under which Barak Obama can be defeated in 2012.
The quality of the Republican candidate doesn't matter. Obama gets reelected.
Nine percent unemployment? No problem. Obama will win.
Gas prices moving toward five dollars a gallon? He still wins.
The economy soars or goes into the gutter. Obama wins.
War in the Middle East ? He wins a second term.

America's role as the leading Superpower disappears? Just what he wants!
The U.S. government rushes toward bankruptcy, the dollar continues to sink on world markets and the price of daily goods and services soars due to inflation fueled by Obama's extraordinary deficit spending? No matter. Obama wins handily.


Many will say, “You are crazy Williams. Don't you understand how volatile politics can be when overall economic, government, and world conditions are declining?” Sure I do.

And that's why I know Obama will win. The American people are notoriously ignorant of economics. And economics is the key to why Obama should be defeated.

Even when Obama's policies lead the nation to final ruin, the majority of the American people are going to believe the bait-and-switch tactics Obama and his supporters in the media will use to explain why it isn't his fault. After all, things were much worse than understood when he took office.

Obama's reelection is really a very, very simple math problem. Consider the following:

1) Blacks will vote for Obama blindly. Period. Doesn't matter what he does. It's a race thing. He's one of us.

That’s why the media destroyed Herman Cain so handily. Too big a threat.



2) College educated women will vote for Obama. Though they will be offended by this, they swoon at his oratory. It's really not more complex than that.

3) Liberals will vote for Obama. He is their great hope.

4) Democrats will vote for Obama. He is the leader of their party and his coat tails will carry them to victory nationwide.

5) Hispanics will vote for Obama. He is the path to citizenship for those who are here illegally and Hispanic leaders recognize the political clout they carry in the Democratic Party.

6) Union members will vote overwhelmingly for Obama. He is their key to money and power in business, state and local politics.


7) Big Business will support Obama. They already have. He has almost $1 Billion dollars in his reelection purse gained largely from his connections with Big Business and is gaining more every day. Big Business loves Obama because he gives them access to taxpayer money so long as they support his social and political agenda.

8) The media love him. They may attack the people who work for him, but they love him. After all, to not love him would be racist.

9) Most other minorities and special interest groups will vote for him. Oddly, the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims will support him because they won't vote Republican. American Indians will support him. Homosexuals tend to vote Democratic. And lastly…

10) Approximately half of independents will vote for Obama. And he doesn't need anywhere near that number because he has all of the groups previously mentioned. The President will win an overwhelming victory in 2012.

-- Dr. Walter Williams

IN ADDITION TO THE VOTING BLOCKS HE MENTIONS, THERE IS ANOTHER HUGE GROUP: NEARLY ONE-HALF OF ALL ADULTS DO NOT PAY ANY TAXES. MOST OF THEM RECEIVE ENTITLEMENT MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THESE PEOPLE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING TO STOP THE FLOW OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO THEMSELVES.

 

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