Tombstone

[Dakotaranger]

AWESOME Episode.  It was definitely worth the wait.  I would like to see you guys do a Little Bighorn episode.

[shooter32]

AWESOME Episode.  It was definitely worth the wait.  I would like to see you guys do a Little Bighorn episode.

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[PegLeg45]

AWESOME Episode.  It was definitely worth the wait.  I would like to see you guys do a Little Bighorn episode.

Yep.


And maybe in later seasons, have a segment or two here and there on the gunfighters and lawmen of the era and their equipment, and some of the more famous shootings.

Being in south Georgia, and growing up only some forty miles from the home of John "Doc" Holliday (and yes, I've visited the old house that is still in Valdosta) I have been a student of the man for a while. I am also fortunate to have in my county, an author, teacher, and historian by the name of Dr. Gary Roberts.....who happens to have written one of the most authoritative books on Holliday extant.
Segments on individuals like Earp, Holliday, Hickok, Custer, Tillman, Bass Reeves....etc would be most welcome, IMHO. Now that Cowboys is out of the line-up, maybe you could fit small doses into other places.

As always, MB and crew, you set the standard.

[tombogan03884]

Yep.


And maybe in later seasons, have a segment or two here and there on the gunfighters and lawmen of the era and their equipment, and some of the more famous shootings.

Being in south Georgia, and growing up only some forty miles from the home of John "Doc" Holliday (and yes, I've visited the old house that is still in Valdosta) I have been a student of the man for a while. I am also fortunate to have in my county, an author, teacher, and historian by the name of Dr. Gary Roberts.....who happens to have written one of the most authoritative books on Holliday extant.
Segments on individuals like Earp, Holliday, Hickok, Custer, Tillman, Bass Reeves....etc would be most welcome, IMHO. Now that Cowboys is out of the line-up, maybe you could fit small doses into other places.

As always, MB and crew, you set the standard.

Might not be such a good idea, most, if not all of them were a bunch of obnoxious drunks, not exactly "role models".
In fact, some of the outlaws were better people.

[MikeBjerum]

Most were outlaws!

Wyatt Earp is the example that has been known for years.  Towns hired, and courts appointed outlaws to enforce the law, because they understood the element, knew how to handle it, and had the nerve to do it.

Just because it has a dark side does not mean we should hide or ignore it.

[Sponsor]

[MikeBjerum]

By the way:

I had Shooting Gallery on in the office in the afternoon and caught bits and pieces; I was going to catch it in the early evening, but got a phone call; and I did not have the stamina to stay up till 2am to watch it.  However, the bits and pieces I saw looked very well done, and was doing a great job of explaining the "Hollywood" vs. history stories.

I look forward to this one coming around again (Hint, Hint, Outdoor Channel - You can rerun these programs all year round and even in coming years), and to seeing more of the same.

[tombogan03884]

Most were outlaws!

Wyatt Earp is the example that has been known for years.  Towns hired, and courts appointed outlaws to enforce the law, because they understood the element, knew how to handle it, and had the nerve to do it.

Just because it has a dark side does not mean we should hide or ignore it.

Depends on whether you want to "perpetuate the myth", or disillusion a whole generation, by showing just what a bunch of self important scum bags these people actually were.
The law men were all drunks, most like the Earp's got famous enforcing some form of "No guns in town" ordinance.
After fighting for 40 years to regain the right to concealed carry and self defense, do we really want to glorify the original Brady bunch ?
Then of course there was the whole issue of them being paid based on the fines they collected, that was a very lucrative shake down.

Matt Dillon was a much better role model, do you actually want to show off alcoholic extortionists as "the American Ideal" ?
None of the real ones "rode off into the sunset, they were more likely to stagger back into the bar.

[PegLeg45]

Might not be such a good idea, most, if not all of them were a bunch of obnoxious drunks, not exactly "role models".
In fact, some of the outlaws were better people.

I was leaning more on their choices of equipment more than a psychological profile.
Role model or not, if a man was good with a gun, and/or could take care of himself in a fight, there could be something to learn.

Lawman/hoodlum/hero/thug.....hmmm...don't sound much different than some of the folks wearing badges today.

[MikeBjerum]

Tom,

Matt Dillon and the Lone Ranger were fictitious characters.  We can use them as a way of showing and teaching proper life choices, but they were not real people.  Wyatt Earp, Wild Bill, Calamity Jane, Buffalo Bill, and others were real.  We need to also show them for what they were.  Some were good, some were bad, some used questionable tactics (the end justifies the means), but they are what they are.  They are also a part of history, and if we do not remember and learn from our history we will never move forward.

What Hollywood does is glorify and show how they saved society.  What shows like Shooting Gallery do is give the full picture.  The same can be said for documentaries.  We need to learn the truth, and there is nothing wrong with some entertainment if it is kept in focus as being entertainment. 

Actually, a movie like Tombstone shows the dangers of disarming a population and leaving the wrong group armed and in charge.  We just need to remove the blinders from our own eyes that we accuse others of being burdened with.  If you see a Brady Campaign infomercial in the movie Tombstone you have been conditioned to think that way ... Damn, I feel like I'm lecturing TAB  instead of Bogan 

[tombogan03884]

The point I'm going for is that if you are going to go into the real people it means warts and all.
An accurate look at Mother Teresa could make her look like a self promoting SOB.
And as to the Brady bunch, they have in fact tried to argue that the "No guns in town" ordinances set the precedent for their agenda.