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Ralph

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Re: How to handle this
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 03:12:51 PM »
A new thought occurred to me...
Given today's technology - what about shouting out (after "the police have been called") "you are being filmed"
While it might increase your danger - it might also help identify the BGs.

The 'mights' are there because I haven't thought this through yet...
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Re: How to handle this
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2012, 06:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Ralph on April 01, 2012, 03:12:51 PM
A new thought occurred to me...
Given today's technology - what about shouting out (after "the police have been called") "you are being filmed"
While it might increase your danger - it might also help identify the BGs.

The 'mights' are there because I haven't thought this through yet...

I don't know, Ralph.  Now days, both the cops and the bad guys might head for you to be sure that video doesn't fall into the wrong hands...

I've thought about this for a bit...and the best thought I have is to make the 911 call and then announce.

"Police Officer.  Identify yourself and drop your weapons."

Cops will tell you they are cops, bad guys will likely comply or prepare to run or attack you.

Downside is that you might be arrested for impersonating an officer of the law....but maybe the reason will get you off.

I put it out  here to find out what other nasty things might happen that I haven't thought of.
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Re: How to handle this
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 09:36:41 PM »
I believe that Massad Ayoob recommended shouting "Police" when in a situation like this,that way you could say that you were trying to get someone to call the Police... ;) ;)
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Re: How to handle this
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 08:55:32 AM »
Something that is being missed here is that these actors are citizen carry permit holders with firearms.  They are not law enforcement!  This is the same area I believe is being missed in the George Zimmerman situation with his position in Neighborhood Watch.

When in doubt, Back away!

Don't lie, don't go into Steven Seagal mode, and remember that you aren't the Lone Ranger.

If you find yourself in a situation where another person with a weapon is an undercover officer, they will make sure you know who and what they are.  That is part of being trained to be undercover.  These officers know they are putting themselves in tough situations on more than one level, and as a permit holder we need to remember the limits of our authority and responsibility.
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Re: How to handle this
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 12:43:35 PM »
Quote from: m58 on April 02, 2012, 08:55:32 AM
Something that is being missed here is that these actors are citizen carry permit holders with firearms.  They are not law enforcement!  This is the same area I believe is being missed in the George Zimmerman situation with his position in Neighborhood Watch.

When in doubt, Back away!

Don't lie, don't go into Steven Seagal mode, and remember that you aren't the Lone Ranger.

If you find yourself in a situation where another person with a weapon is an undercover officer, they will make sure you know who and what they are.  That is part of being trained to be undercover.  These officers know they are putting themselves in tough situations on more than one level, and as a permit holder we need to remember the limits of our authority and responsibility.

I'm with sweet1911 on this one.  I don't think I could back away and still look in the mirror to shave the next morning.  Might be a good thing I have all yous to call for bail help if that doesn't work out for me.

I do like Mejer's post of what Mas recommended...   Shout   "Police"  It should give you a good take on which side of the line the players are standing.
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