Author Topic: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber  (Read 10565 times)

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2012, 01:28:08 PM »
One other thing to consider is that the USMC totals were for TRAINING only, not carry or battle expenditure, and the 80M and 12.5M need to be ADDED since not all Marines carry an M16 variant.

The DHS is TOTAL rounds including carry ammo, We'll say 3 mags for 100K agents is still 4.2M rounds just to carry day to day, so 90 quickly becomes closer to 85 (about the same number as the Marines for PRIMARY weapons training) That duty ammo cannot stay in inventory after two years and cannot be added to the training allocation so it's replaced.

It all boils down to just being jealous that they actually have ACCESS to 90million rounds of 40 and are required by law to expend it.
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2012, 02:12:13 PM »
One other thing to consider is that the USMC totals were for TRAINING only, not carry or battle expenditure, and the 80M and 12.5M need to be ADDED since not all Marines carry an M16 variant.

The DHS is TOTAL rounds including carry ammo, We'll say 3 mags for 100K agents is still 4.2M rounds just to carry day to day, so 90 quickly becomes closer to 85 (about the same number as the Marines for PRIMARY weapons training) That duty ammo cannot stay in inventory after two years and cannot be added to the training allocation so it's replaced.

It all boils down to just being jealous that they actually have ACCESS to 90million rounds of 40 and are required by law to expend it.


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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2012, 02:25:14 PM »

It all boils down to just being jealous that they actually have DENIED ACCESS to 90million rounds of 40 and are required by law to expend it.


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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2012, 03:37:37 PM »
You aren't denied access to it, just get a contract with ATK and order it yourself.  I'm sure they'd LOVE to sell more.
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2012, 03:52:28 PM »
You aren't denied access to it, just get a contract with ATK and order it yourself.  I'm sure they'd LOVE to sell more.

I'm sure the market won't be affected at all by the raw materials ATK will be using for this contract.  Artificially raising the prices is a kin to denial of goods, kind of like poll taxes.  You don't have to worry though you'll get yours right?
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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2012, 03:59:36 PM »
I'm tired of this thread.
The same people post the same tin fiol BS every time the gov buys ammo, whether it's DHS, DOD, or who ever .
Oh my God, it's a conspiracy !
I'll tell you something that will just scare the pants off of you, they've been doing it periodically for decades.
It must be a plot against the people.
It can't possibly be because they have 2 wars going and 2 more in the works.
Then of course there is the ammo DHS gives to PD's and  and SWAT teams like the several thousand rounds each recently received by both city of Laconia, and Belknap county.
What do you know ? about 3/4 of the cops in the country use .40.

Sheesh.

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2012, 04:10:17 PM »
Remember here in the archives the post about the IRS buying Remington 870's? Surely just a normal progression of events....

Like this one.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/irs-forming-swat-team-to-nab-tax-evaders/

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Reuters is also reporting that, because of a “surge” in tax refund fraud and identity theft, the IRS may soon be sharing personal tax return information with the police.

Though Congress made it a crime for IRS workers to share this information in 1976, a pilot program could soon begin in Tampa, FL where victims of identity theft and tax return fraud could give permission to the IRS to share their personal information.


Critics of the program note that it is a “slippery slope,” and while the program may begin with victims giving permission to the IRS, it is only a matter of time before the information is shared without consent, or before the information goes public.  They also say that, perhaps if the tax code was simplified, the IRS would not need to go to such lengths to collect their dues.


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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2012, 05:16:30 PM »
It's no "slippery slope".
Tax collectors have been killing people since Prohibition, then of course there's ATF who exist only to collect $200 tax stamps.

Even if DHS is buying the ammo so they can open concentration camps and start executing every one who doesn't love BO.
So what ?
Do you actually think the sheeple would pull themselves away from "Dancing with the stars" long enough to do anything about it ?

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2012, 10:43:06 PM »
I have a ton of respect for you fellas on here.

Yes, Obama is an absolute waste as a president and his anti 2A stance.  Along with his cronies in his administration.

There have been many governmental screw ups. Hopefully they will soon cease after the election this year.

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Re: Dept. Of Homeland Security Orders 450 MILLION RDS. of .40 Caliber
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2012, 10:33:42 AM »
I have a ton of respect for you fellas on here.

Yes, Obama is an absolute waste as a president and his anti 2A stance.  Along with his cronies in his administration.

There have been many governmental screw ups. Hopefully they will soon cease after the election this year.


If that POS wins by 1 single vote you can expect the media to be flooded with stories about his "mandate from the people".

 

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