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lhprop1

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Re: Red Jacket AR
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 10:55:48 AM »
kmitch, the think I dislike is that they are not really building anything new or with purpose.  They want an ar with ak reliability, so they put a piston system on an ar - I think those are already available over the shelf; they want a mini-gun, so they mount three ar's on a spinning platform; they are just going to the garage with minimal tools and adapting what we have to what we can buy.
 

This is my main beef with the show.  Granted, I know very little about gunsmithing, but those guys just seem to break out the welder and duct tape and build stuff that looks like it was on the Red Green Show. 
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Re: Red Jacket AR
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 12:35:37 PM »
kmitch, the think I dislike is that they are not really building anything new or with purpose.  They want an ar with ak reliability, so they put a piston system on an ar - I think those are already available over the shelf

But the over the counter one like Ruger wouldn't have that neat red jacket logo on it....for only $500 more!

I didn't say I liked the show. I think it's: "Dumb and overly contrived for TV?"
I just don't look at firing whatever you want, where you can when you have the fire dept standing by and exploding targets as a bad thing.
(the exploding targets are also for sale if you want to pay 50-100% more than anywhere else for the same thing)

You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles; but at least they drive slowly past schools.

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Re: Red Jacket AR
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 03:57:04 PM »
About the RJF AR....Article from TTAG.

The NRA doesn’t like to share. So you’ll have to click here for a sneak peak at Red Jacket Firearms’ new AR. It’s The Mother of All Marketing Tie-Ins—excluding James Bond’s Walther PPK, Dirty Harry’s 44 Magnum and bunch of other TV and movie guns. Uh, anyway, the question must be asked: other than star power, what does this new piston-driven modern home sporting defense rifle bring to the AR game? No se. Will Hayden no say either. What could Will and his dog shit-scooping minions introduce to ARland these days? I’m certainly not buying that shotgun/rifle hybrid Red Jacket thingie. No suh. About the only way cool thing I’ve seen recently AR-wise: SureFire’s new canted rapid transition sights for Three Gun competitions. Still, you know we’ll be watching . . .

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/03/robert-farago/new-sons-of-guns-red-jacket-firearms-ar-and/

They are also very pricey...

Here's another interesting video, and commentary....about RJF... Vid at link.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/robert-farago/red-jacket-firearms-safety-sucks/

TTAG commentator Freddie Serna posted this underneath SHOT Show Snaps: Red Jacket Firearms and R. Lee Ermey. We’ve lifted it from that post and republished it here with Mr. Serna’s permission.

“You can do what I did to show how irresponsible and dangerous Red Jacket Firearms and the Discovery Channel are. I introduced the Sons of Guns episode “Blanks Prank” [above] to our executive officers and safety department. They were very impressed with the safety aspects that Will Hayden was conveying. They were so impressed that they do not plan on doing any business with Red Jacket Firearms. I work for the nuclear plant in Arizona and we have quite a large number of former military personnel as well as former police officers in our security department . . .

We also exchange information (good or bad) with the other nuclear plants in the U.S. and abroad. Generally INPO 1 plants set the standards for the other nuclear plants. What the best practiced plants do the others follow suit especially if it involves nuclear or industrial safety. Wall Street and insurance companies also look very closely on the involvement of companies when it involves safety. The companies stocks and insurance rates are dictated by how much a company gets involved with safety. OSHA also has their hands deep into everything when it comes to safety.

So if you work for a company that has any type of security department that uses or has plans to acquire AR15/M4 based weapons or any weapons for that matter introduce them to the Sons of Guns “Blanks Prank” video. A simple e-mail is all it takes. Most company execs will find it appalling and will not authorize any funds toward acquiring RJF products.

Does it matter to Will Hayden, Red Jacket Firearms or the Discovery Channel? IDK. I would guess that it probably doesn’t as long as they continue to have a big fan base. But you can only do what you can do.”
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

 

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