"Krauthammer goes Hard Left"..

[santahog]

Krauthammer On Drones Flying In US: "Stop It Here, Stop It Now"

"I'm going to go hard left on you here, I'm going ACLU," syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer said in opposition to the use of drones on the U.S. homeland. "I don't want regulations, I don't want restrictions, I want a ban on this. Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didn't like standing armies, it has all kinds of statutes of using the army in the country."
 
"A drone is a high-tech version of an old army and a musket. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. I don't want to see it hovering over anybody's home. Yes, you can say we have satellites, we've got Google Street View and London has a camera on every street corner but that's not an excuse to cave in on everything else and accept a society where you're always under -- being watched by the government. This is not what we want," Krauthammer said on the panel portion of FOX News' "Special Report."
 
"I would say that you ban it under all circumstances and I would predict, I'm not encouraging, but I an predicting that the first guy who uses a Second Amendment weapon to bring a drone down that's been hovering over his house is going to be a folk hero in this country," Krauthammer said tonight.
 
"I would say the price of liberty. You can hear a helicopter, you can't hear a drone. You know, if you hear a helicopter you hide under a bush. Well, you can't with this which is why it's effective in Pakistan and elsewhere. It's deft and it's silent. I don't think we want a society where if there are the objects, hovering over streaming, real-time information about you, your family, your car, your location," Krauthammer said later in the segment.
 
"It's not worth it," he said.
 
"The Founders we're deeply opposed to the militarization of civil society. There is all kinds of aversions to it and this is importing it because, as you say, it's cheap, it's easy, it's silent. It's something that you can easily deploy. It's going to be, I think the bane of our existence. Stop it here, stop it now," Krauthammer said at the end of the panel segment. "Strong letter to follow."

[tombogan03884]

How are drones any different than a cop walking a beat, or a guy in a fire tower ?

[santahog]

Ask him?..

[tombogan03884]

His argument about it being a "militarization of civil society" is a load of crap.
It is simply finding civilian use for a technology that happened to be advanced by the military.
Remember, remotely controlled air craft have been around for 50 years as toys for hobbyists, so it is not "military technology the way a tank, or bomb would be.
A good analogy would be aircraft, the carrying capacity developed for WWI bombers made possible the air mail flights of the 20's using the Curtiss "Jenny", an American made version of the DH-4 bomber.
This is just applying the next step in technology to a job that is already being done.
Surveillance is already done with airplanes and helicopters, same with fire watch.
I'm not impressed with the spying, but since I live in a heavily forested state that hasn't had a manned fire tower in 30 years I'm damned glad they are looking for them from the air.

Using this guys reasoning you could not have a 30-06 or 45, or teflon pans, because those were developed especially for the military and that would be "militarization of civil society."

[jnevis]

You forgot the computer, internet, GPS, cell phones, and the airplane Tom.
I have to laugh at junk like this from people that are just looking for ratings or to stir up crap, a lot like all this NDAA stuff. 

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[tombogan03884]

You forgot the computer, internet, GPS, cell phones, and the airplane Tom.
I have to laugh at junk like this from people that are just looking for ratings or to stir up crap, a lot like all this NDAA stuff. 

The computer is an IDEAL example !
Since the first one was built to do the calculations for the Atomic Bomb.

[Ulmus]

I'm with you guys on this one.

Talk about closing the doors after the horses have left the barn.   

[santahog]

Sorry.. I couldn't resist.. 

[tombogan03884]

Sorry.. I couldn't resist.. 

There you go !  LOL   

[Solus]

Around the mid 80s I read came across 3 developments that led me to and evil idea.

One was a rocket that a hobbyist could build that could be controlled with simple RC servos for elevator and rudder.

The second was a RADAR sensor that would output voltages in a X,Y coordinate system that would allow the sensor to control movement of motors so it would point at the RADAR device.

The third was the output jack of my Valentine 1 Radar detector.  It was used to power a larger external speaker.

So, put them all together and you have a rocket with the RC Servos controlled by the RADAR sensor's outputs and it's rocket engine started by a signal from the speaker output jack on my radar detector.  Fill the rocket with some home made explosives and mount the rocket on a sky rack on the roof of the car.

The image I get is toping a hill on the interstate at 100mph, my radar detector beeping like crazy and a woosh as the rocket takes off and zeros in on the Highway Patrol car hiding in the bushes on the left side of the road.