Quick 1911 Question

[twyacht]

Ahaaaa!!!
Gotcha now.....I'm pickin' up what you are puttin' down now....... 

That adds to the possibilities.......

In that case, heck, the pin itself (where it goes through the frame and barrel link could possibly be worn enough to let it slip....or the holes in the frame could be wallowed out....but I'm inclined to go with the former and say it is the pin diameter just making it enough of a sloppy fit to work itself out.

Sometimes thousandths will do it.

After jumping in late and tearing down my own full size S&W 1911,.....the detective "little voice" in my head saw the light and agree with the strong likelihood in agreement with Pegleg.

Something has become "wallowed out" right along those lines. The gun compensated under duress. Poor thing,....

Considering the tight tolerances of the S&W, if a wallowing were to occur at the barrel link, (a moving and flexible part subject to wear), and the pin that is so relied upon, is a very real possibility.

Compare to another.  Great post. for those that cherish their 1911's...It's a tune up on a 57 Chevy. No special tools required, Just a credit to John Browning, who knew some parts will wear out with rampant shooters....

Between Wilson Combat and Para,....a solution will be at hand soon.

Again, good post. and a heads up for others.

[robheath]

Yes I am very suprised at the response.  4 pages...thats a record for me.  As I've stated before I don't post a lot.  But I lurk here all the time.  I really like the people on here and the collective wisdom of the crew here is great.

[tombogan03884]

Yes I am very suprised at the response.  4 pages...thats a record for me.  As I've stated before I don't post a lot.  But I lurk here all the time.  I really like the people on here and the collective wisdom of the crew here is great.

It comes from the fact we could bust the corners off a BB.   

[Solus]

Yes I am very suprised at the response.  4 pages...thats a record for me.  As I've stated before I don't post a lot.  But I lurk here all the time.  I really like the people on here and the collective wisdom of the crew here is great.

Well, what did you expect? 

No one here can turn their back on a sick 1911....not even us Glock shooters 

[PegLeg45]

Well, what did you expect? 

No one here can turn their back on a sick 1911....not even us Glock shooters 

Now I like that......         

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[robheath]

OK, here's the rangr report.  The plunger spring I ordered has not come in yet. I went and shot anyway.  150 rounds,  two handed. one handed even shot rap video style.  No malfunctions.  I shot slow and steady and I shot rapid.  No problems at all even with cheap dirty gritty Winchester white box Wally world ammo.  When I came home, I used my calipers and their is a slight difference in the levers.  When I was a Deputy Sherrif I went to a Glock armorers school about the time Glocks first starterd to get popular.  The guy giving some of the class was a 1911 buff.  Back then most 1911s were a little rough in the accuracy dept.  He told me to pay attn. to where the slide stop leve went through the bbl link.  on each side are two lugs that should solidlt engage the levers pin and show wear.  The better the wear mark on the pin the more accurate the pistol would be because the indicated tightness.  I don't know if this is true but I do know I cold blued the pin a while back and the wear marks are not their any more.  When I first got the gun I looked at these wear marks and they were nice and even.  Any way I tell y'all this to let you know that the pin has worn down enough to no longer be tight in the bbl link.  Or the bbl link is now worn.  New plunger, spring and bbl link shoulb be in soon.  I think my problem is already solved with the new lever.  Sorry for the long post but I feel relieved and wanted ther share that with friends.

[robheath]

I forgot to mention that the range was packed.  I went on sat. morning, 90 degrees 90 percent humidity.  This is the parish sheriffs dept. range.  Hot as hell and all outside.  It's only ever packed after some big political event.  Such as Obomcare I guess.

[jaybet]

Sounds like you're on top of it and you'll have her runnin' good as (broken in)new soon.

[PegLeg45]

Great to hear it is running!!!!

You are correct about the barrel link-to-pin fit, as well as the lugs riding the pin on each side of the pin.....that is where you get the rear barrel lock-up in battery...... And also where too much wear will let you experience 'pin slop' when the barrel drops down after unlocking.

A good way to test in the field to see if the lugs are riding on the pin and locking up OK is to press down on the barrel hood with the gun (unloaded, of course) in battery. It should not move downward easily.
A Sharpie marker on the face of the lugs and mag-full of full power loads will usually show how the lugs are riding the pin.

Anyway, glad you are getting it worked out....we don't like sick guns around here....particularly 1911's.......      

[robheath]

Great to hear it is running!!!!

You are correct about the barrel link-to-pin fit, as well as the lugs riding the pin on each side of the pin.....that is where you get the rear barrel lock-up in battery...... And also where too much wear will let you experience 'pin slop' when the barrel drops down after unlocking.

A good way to test in the field to see if the lugs are riding on the pin and locking up OK is to press down on the barrel hood with the gun (unloaded, of course) in battery. It should not move downward easily.
A Sharpie marker on the face of the lugs and mag-full of full power loads will usually show how the lugs are riding the pin.

Anyway, glad you are getting it worked out....we don't like sick guns around here....particularly 1911's.......      

Thanks Peg.  Now that you say that I think I remember something like that before.  If I knew how to post pics on here I would put some up.  Any way it seems to be on the mend now.  Like I stated above, even with the rap video hold the lever did not slide out.  And yes I hate sick guns too. I love 1911s, my wife ie always giving me a hard time when I tell her it's time to buy a new gun.  She says "let me guess, a .45"  which is her term for 1911.  Thanks every one for the help.  Now its time to have her refinished.  What is y'alls opinion of powder coating on firearms?