USMC going back to Ol' Slabsides.....

[tombogan03884]

9mm was the prob.   damn euro pansy round.  

Mark the calendar ! TAB and I agree  
.38 didn't get the job done in 1900's, so they went back to .45 Cal.
Only a liberal would be dumb enough to think that a 9MM, roughly the same diameter, and velocity, would work better 80 years later.
So Europe uses it, BFD, they also think .32 and .380 are police service calibers .
Now if we can just find a real bullet to replace that over hyped varmint round in the service rifle we will be back in business.
The fan boys will bleat that "A lot of bad guys have been killed with  5.56 " true enough, but they were not killed because of the round, they were killed in spite of it.
There would have been a lot more dead BG's if our troops had rifle and machine guns in calibers worth a crap.

[TAB]

The 308 worked just fine. A little bigger then needed,but not much.  There is no replacment for displacment.  Its true of motors and its true for bullets.   you need the mass to fook shit up.

[Timothy]

Genghis Kahn would not approve,.....

They probably frown on using your enemies severed head for the soccer tourney as well!   

[tombogan03884]

The Navy and Marines tried a 6MM in the 1890's but it lacked modern boat tailed bullets, They liked it OK, but the Lee rifle was to delicate and complicated for service.
The Soviets went with 2 calibers 7.62X 39 for individual weapons and Squad automatic and 7.62X54 for Sniper rifles and  heavier machine guns, it works but complicates the supply chain, (even more so when the pistol cartridge was also a 7.62 X25  Tok ).
So twice in a row I have to agree with TAB.
The .308 is technically a known commodity, loads, bullet wts, barrel twist rates, have all been worked out years ago.
It deprives the individual soldier of the ability to spray and pray, but conventional troops do not need full auto fire. they need to know how to shoot.
Full auto is appropriate for specific military purposes and is supplied by dedicated machine guns that are designed to handle the stress's, heat, and recoil of sustained fire, that can be chambered in the same caliber simplifying supply.