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Pathfinder

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Re: The police chief can't carry a gun (FL)
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 06:02:10 AM »
The bigger problem, the one that is not really being addressed here, is the denial of rights without due process. As I seem to recall, there is there is something in that pesky US Constitution that keeps getting in the way of the "social engineers" that prohibits illegal search and seizure.

Anyone want to argue that a court ordering the seizure of firearms just because someone files a claim is legal - especially in such circumstances as a contentious divorce where such a claim can be easily and readily used to abuse the other party? This type of seizure, just like the seizures in drug cases - before any conviction or even an arrest in some cases - is not legal even though the law says it is.
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Re: The police chief can't carry a gun (FL)
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2008, 08:39:18 AM »
My understanding that in a domestic abuse case only a judge can take firearms away and to that, you have to be charged.  Could be wrong or there is something else to this story that we don't know.   

My point of view coming from a LE family, it is usually a bad idea to take a gun away from a cop and then let it be known.  While killing a cop or shooting at one is a bad idea for an extended llife span (I was in Lakeland, FL last Sept. when the deputy and his dog were killed and another police officer was wounded), for the most part bad guys don't care about killing cops.  In fact, some wear it as a badge. 

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Re: The police chief can't carry a gun (FL)
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 08:50:25 AM »
I don't know about other states, but in CA if a order of protection is issued( which is issued by a judge.)  you have a short period of time to surrender all your firearmes to a LE agency.( I forget if its 24 or 48 hours, but its not very long)
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Re: The police chief can't carry a gun (FL)
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 01:43:33 PM »
Pathfinder is right, some of us got onto the politics aspect and missed the legal implication, In fact this Sheriff has been denied a civil right for the terrible offense of not being able to get along with his wife. Who among us is innocent of that ? Every one says poorly considered things when they are angry or annoyed, and if they did not anger or annoy one another they would not be estranged. Domestic violence is the ONLY misdemeanor offense for which you can be denied a civil right ( fire arms ownership)That is under the FEDERAL Lautenberg bill, I would site article and such but I cleaned the apartment, and put my copy of the constitution somewhere I wouldn't lose it and haven't seen the damn thing since  :(  But Ron, No there isn't necessarily anything we are not being told, thats the way it is in the nanny state. As to publishing the fact it shows that the Sheriff is not above the law, also, He is not likely to be doing foot patrols in dark alleys as a Sheriffs duties are primarily political supervisory and administrative, He has Deputies for the grunt work  ;D

 

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