Frangible Handgun Ammo- Anybody???

[Solus]

Military has been using it for a while and I like it since the bullet is lighter and faster and clean burning I have shot lots of it in the 9mm and yes I use it in a indoor range.

Have you heard military testimonies about it's effectiveness other than published by the manufacture?  Not saying they are fudging it, just that I don't know what is true.

They sound great, but all I have heard is from the ads.  I'd want to see an independent evaluation before I believe in it. 

[kmitch200]

Have you heard military testimonies about it's effectiveness other than published by the manufacture?  Not saying they are fudging it, just that I don't know what is true.

Doesn't the military just use it for training? It's "effectiveness" would be limited to hitting the target and cycling the slide.

[Rastus]

http://www.iccammo.com/index.php

A little pricey but it comes with good recommendations.

 

[Solus]

It really sounds great...and if it performs as well as it is advertised, I'd be using it...but I don't know that it does.

All of that damage in the first 4 inches might just cause surface injuries, but it could just as well cause a traumatic collapse of the rib cage damaging the heart and lungs, which would be a quick fight stopper

 A shot to the gut might shred intestines, liver, pancreas, spleen and anything else in the area. While that might not be quickly fatal, it might stop the fight right then....or it might do damage to skin and muscle..

I have not seen unbiased tests to determine how it does perform.

I have seen tests and verification on the street that the modern SD rounds (my choice is Hornaday  Critical Defense or Corbon DPX) will be fight stoppers near or above 90% of the time with +.40 caliber rounds and approaching that with 9mm rounds.

Without similar verification of the effectiveness of frangible ammunition, in particular that made by DRT, I won't give up the 90% effectiveness of traditional SD ammunition for a +10 possible. but unverified, maximum gain.

And I am not saying the tests results aren't out there, I just have not found them.

[usmcdadx2]

Very non-scientific study but here goes; a couple of years back a buddy launched a poor shot while bow hunting and hit the deer in the neck. By the time we found it there was no way it was safe to process/eat. Being an ethical hunter he tagged and registered it and then took it home planning to put it in the woods behind his house to let nature do it’s thing. On the way to the woods we decided to string it up in a tree and “field test some of the Magsafe rounds he had recently bought. Two rounds from a 4” S&W Mod19, .357 were fired broadside from 10 yards, one to the guts below the ribs and one into the ribs.
Then we opened the deer up; the gut shot had a couple of fragments make an exit wound but the rest of the round remained in the deer and really ripped things up. The chest shot was not as effective but I believe would have still resulted in a kill shot, the round stuck a rib which pretty much stopped the round however there were fragments of the round and many bone fragments from the rib in the lung on that side of the deer. I’m sure the damage would have been fatal, just not sure how long it would have taken.

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