Blind sheikh to get released to Egypt...

[Tyler Durden]

For medical reasons:

http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2012/09/17/mastermind-of-world-trade-center-bombing-to-be-transferred-to-egypt/

[fightingquaker13]

Unless those reasons include being dead, and/or we get some seriously high value prisoners of our own back I don't see it. I mean, we DO, make deals with terrorists and releasing a dying old man is not a bad way to go if we have to, but damn the parades and demonstrations are going to piss me off!
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Another Obama FP triumph.
Dems always suck on FP but his guy is more f*cked up than carter.
He absolutly must be working for America's enemies, if he were just an idiot then he would have done at least ONE thing good for America, even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but Obama has a perfect record of doing the worst possible thing every single time.

[Pathfinder]

Another Obama FP triumph.
Dems always suck on FP but his guy is more f*cked up than carter.
He absolutly must be working for America's enemies, if he were just an idiot then he would have done at least ONE thing good for America, even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but Obama has a perfect record of doing the worst possible thing every single time.

And with hi childhood mentor being "Uncle" Frank Davis, his grown-up buddy of Bill Ayers, and his puppeteer of George Soros, you're surprised why?

[fightingquaker13]

And with hi childhood mentor being "Uncle" Frank Davis, his grown-up buddy of Bill Ayers, and his puppeteer of George Soros, you're surprised why?

While I will state for the record I think this is beyond boneheaded, unless we are getting far more than we are giving in a prisoner exchange that will never be made public, I ask this. Why would an atheist, marxist, secularist like Ayers sypathize with Muslim fundamentalists who would as soon kill him as look at him? I mean, the enemy of my enemy and all that, and I have less than zero use for Ayers, but seriously? There are strange bedfellows, then there is just idiocy. I think this skirts that line. Is BO a marxist, a Muslim, a black liberation Christian, or a willing tool of the ultimate jew (according to conspiracy theorists), George Soros? Pick one. And you guys said I was irrational when I hated on W..
FQ13 Who will not be voting for the man again, but honestly? This is just a little sad.

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

While I will state for the record I think this is beyond boneheaded, unless we are getting far more than we are giving in a prisoner exchange that will never be made public, I ask this. Why would an atheist, marxist, secularist like Ayers sypathize with Muslim fundamentalists who would as soon kill him as look at him? I mean, the enemy of my enemy and all that, and I have less than zero use for Ayers, but seriously? There are strange bedfellows, then there is just idiocy. I think this skirts that line. Is BO a marxist, a Muslim, a black liberation Christian, or a willing tool of the ultimate jew (according to conspiracy theorists), George Soros? Pick one. And you guys said I was irrational when I hated on W..
FQ13 Who will not be voting for the man again, but honestly? This is just a little sad.

First, Ayers and the rest of the communist/ "Dems" support the Muslims because it undermines one of the strengths of Western culture,  individual patriotism .
This is precisely in line with the preachings of the socialist "Frankfort school" philosophy.
As for Obama, He is a Marxist who's primary religious influences were Islam, who is now a tool of the anti Semite (based on his own writings) Soros.
FQ, before you are qualified to form a coherent thought you need to reject 4 educational factors.
1 - Quit paying attention to political theory as pushed by  Locke, Hume, Paine etc. These writers have no application to the real world unless you want to write a new Constitution for some newly independent country.
Read the writings of people who have actually USED power, Mao, Alinsky, Hitler, Stalin, Machiavelli.
Political "science" has no application in the real world, this is the domain of political "mechanics".
2- Reject "Academic collectivism" ignore historical writings where the references are all other Professors and researchers, if the references do not include diaries, and letters of actual participants then they are worthless.
The first 2 steps will almost automatically lead to the rejection of
3 - Modernism, and
4 - Deconstructionism.
When you begin to do your own thinking about the contents of original source documents on power and political manipulation you will be better prepared to understand the real world around you.

Watch the whole video to see how the above principals of "Modernism", "Deconstructionism", and "Academic Collectivism" distort what you think you know.
The subject is Jefferson/ religion, however what the speaker says applies to all historical subjects.

Thanks to Santahog for the video.

[fightingquaker13]

Tom
Barton is a jackass. His "scholarship" is like wikipedia for the right. If he says it, it must be true. The man has no credibility, so of course he tries to discredit those who point it out. As to your more valid points, there was some connection between radical secularists from the West and the Arab world in the Seventies. Most notably the Baader Meinhoff gang and its associates and the PLO. But remember, back in the day, the PLO were a more or less secular national liberation front, about as closely tied to Islam as the Provisional IRA were to the Catholic Church. That is world's apart from the hard core fundamentalists we are seeing now. The means may be the same, but the ends desired are very different. And yeah, that's modernism. I think a return to the sixth century is something most Marxists would have a problem with. What's that phrase "The opiate of the people"?
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Barton is discredited because he does not subscribe to the incestuous principal of academic collectivism.
Instead of rehashing the conclusions other "scholars", he has the audacity to reference, of all the ridiculous things, Jefferson's own writings, and contemporary documentation.
You also miss the point on the connection between the left and radical Islam, the Frankfort school  (now known as   Institute for Social Research ) does not care about the aims of radical Islam, where they share a mutual interest is in undermining the Christian faith of the Western world.
As an example of the creeping nature of the leftist threat consider this, when gays were commonly considered degenerate perverts a movement started to get people to quit beating them up and other wise "victimizing" them, that progressed into "gay rights" and has become "same sex marriage".
This continued erosion of traditional values will logically evolve into the complete erosion of all baseline moral conduct.
The next step is to make child sex acceptable,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

[fightingquaker13]

I love that you close with a wiki quote. Irony, thy name is Tom. Seriously "the incestuous academic collectivism" is a Barton term for people who know what they're talking about evaluating your work. Its no different than doctors, lawyers, plumbers or electricians doing the same. If you pull stuff out of your ass, no one will respect you. Every trade has standards. Barton has not met those and so plays the victim. Its really rather sad. His agenda is driving the bus, but that's no excuse for shoddy scholarship unless he is arrogant enough to think that he doesn't have to at least intelligently engage the curent debate. Neither you nor I do that. We both make our points. Barton is an evangelist and a politician. Nothing wrong with that, but he's not a scholar.

Meanwhile, back on topic since I really don't give a rat's rump about Barton. He's not the issue here. As far as the Frankfurt School, and their plans to destroy the West, that's a bit overstated. What united these scholars was that they were all frustrated marxists who back in the sixties finally woke up (and very gradually) smelled the coffee. They realized that the reason their prophet Marx's plan's hadn't come to fruition was that workers were also consumers, which is why union guys will shop at Wall Mart. This was heresy to traditional marxism as you were either a worker or a capitalist. Consumer didn't enter into it. So they had to deal with it. "Damn, gravity exists. That's why shit alway's falls when I just know it shouldn't".
 They came up with all sorts of theories on the world, some good like Arendt's "The Banality of Evil" and some silly like Habermas' "Perfect Speech Situation", but that's all it was. It was a bunch of academics who relized that the emperor was bare ass naked and tried to explain why. There was no grand conspiracy. Hell these people couldn't conspire a two car parade. Now, the right, with hacks like Barton say they were a cabal. On the left, there are some who say they showed the way, which would have been news to them. So you get jackass fighting jackass about a bunch of dead German scholars. Personally, I think its best to leave them be. People interpret stuff as they will, when is this news?
FQ13

[TAB]

I  say we let him go.  Then when he gets about 100 yds away, open up on him with a m2.