Police officer shoots dead pen-wielding amputee

[Ulmus]

What kind of gutless chickensh!t azzhole thinks it's ever justified to shoot a one armed one legged guy in a wheel chair ?
The trigger happy cop,Ulmas and TAB.
Takes a real bad azz to use a whole bullet on a half a person.   

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Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it hard to:

Tell the difference between what is real and not real
Think clearly
Have normal emotional responses
Act normally in social situations

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Anxiety
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If the guy believes that he is going to be killed and tries to kill the cop in a mental rage/panic then tasers and mace will most likely not work.

When the full report comes out we'll have the best chance to review all the evidense, until then, I'm going to back the cops and say justified shooting.

[TAB]

I heard on the news to night ( pinch of salt) that the guy in the wheel chair had his partner pinned in a corner.   no of us were there, and news reports lie... But if every thing reported is true.  Then it is looking more and more like a good shoot.   granted alot of Qs need to be answered.

[sledgemeister]

The dude had one arm and one leg.
Kick the farken wheel chair over ffs.
Good shoot my left nut.
If the guy was able bodied not a prob, he wasn't!
Your seriously telling me two seemingly able bodied and fit for duty cops could not wrangle a guy with one arm and one leg in a WHEEL CHAIR?
If that's the case then they both need to ride the desk for the rest of their careers, that or get a job at do-nut king!

[fightingquaker13]

The dude had one arm and one leg.
Kick the farken wheel chair over ffs.
Good shoot my left nut.
If the guy was able bodied not a prob, he wasn't!
Your seriously telling me two seemingly able bodied and fit for duty cops could not wrangle a guy with one arm and one leg in a WHEEL CHAIR?
If that's the case then they both need to ride the desk for the rest of their careers, that or get a job at do-nut king!

Agreed. If the officer thought it was a gun, then it was a good shoot, a one armed guy ina  wheel chair can be as dangerous as the best trained soldier if he has a pistol. If he thought it was a knife? What part of backing up didn't he get?Literally, take two steps back, figure you're faster then the one legged, one armed  guy in the chair and proceed accordingly. After all, a one armed man simply cannot move forward in a wheel chair and threaten you with a "knife" at the same time. Its one or the other. This guy will be sharing a cell with Zimmerman. To quote Pincus there is a difference between can and should. Unless you honestly believed that your life or some innocents was on the line, the gun should stay unfired.  Jackass!
FQ13

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[sledgemeister]

read my post...

hmmm ok

The artical also says he was less then a foot away.   thats well with in deadly range of a knife.     just a fyi  it is also sop to not use a tazer or other less then leathal weapon unless you are back up by another officer with a leathal weapon drawn and ready.   

So somehow a person who is a person trained to serve and protect was surrounded and put in a corner by a one armed and one legged individual in a wheel chair, their tactical astuteness must be outstanding . Their partner another seemingly adept tactical mastermind determined that his only course of action was to shoot the extremely agile individual.
Now I know we wasn't there, and we don't know all the circumstances, but its pretty bloody sad when two supposed able bodied coppers cant subdue and restrain a one armed/legged dude in a wheel chair with out having to resort to shooting him. If they aren't then heaven help the people of Houston if there is ever any riots, crowd control etc needed. What will these guys use to quell the danger then a Apache Helicopter and a Gatling Gun?

BTW
How does one hand cuff a one armed dude? I suppose you could cuff him to a flag pole and watch him hop in circles?

[kmitch200]

hmmm ok

So somehow a person who is a person trained to serve and protect was surrounded and put in a corner by a one armed and one legged individual in a wheel chair, their tactical astuteness must be outstanding . Their partner another seemingly adept tactical mastermind determined that his only course of action was to shoot the extremely agile individual.
Now I know we wasn't there, and we don't know all the circumstances, but its pretty bloody sad when two supposed able bodied coppers cant subdue and restrain a one armed/legged dude in a wheel chair with out having to resort to shooting him.

I"m not saying whether the shoot was good or bad without more info - I wasn't there either.

Some things to consider:
How long has this guy been in a chair? A week, 8 months, 10 yrs?
Was the guy acting "reasonably normal" when the cops got there and that's what caused them to get within arms reach? To 'talk him down?' (tactics)
They weren't on a parking lot - they could have been in a 10'x12' bedroom.
What you get dispatched on and what you find when you get there are often not the same thing.

On edit: I know I wouldn't want to be the defendant in this case.



  

[Solus]

Without seeing the entire encounter on video, we are not going to be able to make a "for sure" evaluation of the situation.

On the other hand, my hunch is that some where along the way, two able bodied and smarter than a rock cops should have been able to prevent or avoid a lethal confrontation with a double amputee in a wheel chair....even if it is kicking him and his chair away and risk taking a slash to the leg to do it.  

[PegLeg45]

With the right mindset and motivation, a wheelchair ain't sh!t.... Like the guy in Florida a few years ago with no arms the stole a car and led cops on a chase.





Not to hi-jack the thread, but just ask USMC Cpl. Todd Love...... 

http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2012/08/todd-love-team-extreme-spartan-race/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/todd-love-triple-amputee-marine-veteran-spartan-race_n_1840261.html

[Solus]

With the right mindset and motivation, a wheelchair ain't sh!t.... Like the guy in Florida a few years ago with no arms the stole a car and led cops on a chase.

This is true....but if two cops standing 20 feet from him had to shoot him dead to stop him, I'd be be wondering......