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santahog

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Col West gets it..
« on: October 03, 2012, 11:59:26 AM »
Why is this so hard for folks to understand....
It protects us all!!
With friends like these, who needs hallucinations!..

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Re: Col West gets it..
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 12:43:22 PM »
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"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."

For me, that just about says it all.  The big idea here doesn't hinge on political slant, race, religion, gender, wealth, or position.  The big idea here is liberty... freedom... the right to protect what we hold dear from the injuries of both men and government.  It's nice when you can listen to a politician that understands.


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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 12:46:29 PM »
"Those that give up liberty for more security deserve neither liberty or security."

Ben Franklin

On another board someone's signature says "Ignore your liberties they'll go away..."
He who dares wins.  SAS

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2012, 12:51:55 PM »
For me, that just about says it all.  The big idea here doesn't hinge on political slant, race, religion, gender, wealth, or position.  The big idea here is liberty... freedom... the right to protect what we hold dear from the injuries of both men and government.  It's nice when you can listen to a politician that understands.



It hinges entirely on political slant.
The left is all about control, what you can say, and what is "hate speech, what you can eat, how big a soda you're allowed to drink,
and who is allowed to use violence .
Look at England where a man went to prison for using a golf club on the home invaders who had tied up his family.
He went to prison, they had the charges dropped.
That is what a "Labour" govt has brought England to, our democrats are the same creatures with the same socialist , one world agenda.

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2012, 01:05:16 PM »
It hinges entirely on political slant.

I don't know, maybe I should have said 'party affiliation'.  Anyway, what I mean is that the 2A isn't just for Republicans, or Democrats, or the Name-Your-Party party.  The 2A transcends these boundaries and definitions.  The God-given right that the 2A acknowledges is bigger than the politics of man.


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tombogan03884

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2012, 04:13:17 PM »
I don't know, maybe I should have said 'party affiliation'.  Anyway, what I mean is that the 2A isn't just for Republicans, or Democrats, or the Name-Your-Party party.  The 2A transcends these boundaries and definitions.  The God-given right that the 2A acknowledges is bigger than the politics of man.

The principle does, the belief in the principle is very much defined by party affiliation.
I copied this from the NYT because the version on Democrat dot org was a PDF and I did not want to bother downloading it.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/09/04/us/politics/20120904-DNC-platform.html  (page 23 lower half )

 We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements - like reinstating the "America's metro areas - cities and assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole -

What part of "Shall not be infringed do they not understand ?

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2012, 04:32:23 PM »

What part of "Shall not be infringed do they not understand ?

All of it.
“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.”

James Madison

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2012, 06:18:38 PM »
What part of "Shall not be infringed do they not understand ?

Look what the current administration is doing to the 1st Amendment while these useful idiots sit idly by and say nothing about the very thing that they live for!

I'm reminded of a minister in Germany during the Holocaust that said, and I'm paraphrasing,  "we said nothing when they came for the Jews, or the Pols, or the political prisoners and before long there was no one left to defend us."

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He who dares wins.  SAS

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2012, 06:55:18 PM »
Martin Niemoller

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller



    First they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.

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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2012, 07:04:45 PM »
 
A German's view on Islam - worth reading. This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past  history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.  Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.. China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!�� Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into New York City public schools,  Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while The Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in. And we are silent.......
 
 


 

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