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Re: This may explain no Campus Carry allowed..
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2012, 02:35:58 PM »
Just a question, FQ....   or two or so...

If you did decide to boot 75% of the class on the first day for not meeting minimum specs, what exactly would happen on the second day of class?

I suspect that the 75% would be in the bursars office demanding a refund and perhaps threatening legal action.

Would it have been possible to screen the incoming students for meeting the requirements and not enroll those who fell below the mins?

Would the university president stop by your class to give you an Atta Boy and tell you it's about time you Profs stepped up and did what needed to be done?
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Re: This may explain no Campus Carry allowed..
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 02:47:39 PM »
If you did decide to boot 75% of the class on the first day for not meeting minimum specs, what exactly would happen on the second day of class?

He would be fired before the 2nd day for turning away "paying customers."

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Would it have been possible to screen the incoming students for meeting the requirements and not enroll those who fell below the mins?

Some classes have prerequisites, but not all of them.  If he's just a starting prof, he's not going to get the higher level classes, so there is no 'screening process' or prerequisites.  He's stuck trying to teach the top 10% while the bottom 90% drag them down.

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Would the university president stop by your class to give you an Atta Boy and tell you it's about time you Profs stepped up and did what needed to be done?

Probably not.  Colleges are a funny entity.  They want to further education through research and such (for which they get beau coups bucks), but to do so they also have to 'educate' the masses and make money by being a diploma factory for the people who are too damn stupid to tie their own shoes, but have met the minimum standard for entry.  Kicking out 75% of your paying customers isn't going to sit well.
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Re: This may explain no Campus Carry allowed..
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 06:27:49 PM »
He would be fired before the 2nd day for turning away "paying customers."

Some classes have prerequisites, but not all of them.  If he's just a starting prof, he's not going to get the higher level classes, so there is no 'screening process' or prerequisites.  He's stuck trying to teach the top 10% while the bottom 90% drag them down.

Probably not.  Colleges are a funny entity.  They want to further education through research and such (for which they get beau coups bucks), but to do so they also have to 'educate' the masses and make money by being a diploma factory for the people who are too damn stupid to tie their own shoes, but have met the minimum standard for entry.  Kicking out 75% of your paying customers isn't going to sit well.
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Re: This may explain no Campus Carry allowed..
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 12:52:23 AM »
No 4 year school should be teaching remedal classes.  If they need it, they need to get thier ass to a jc.   I started at a jc in hs, then a csu and finally a uc.  I learned more at the jc then I did any other.  What we really need is real trade/ tech school and a apprenticeship progarms.   like there was not to long ago.   not like the diploma mills we have of today.  Real programs where after 4 years of training, your title of journyman( or what ever) actually ment something.  You could do job x.   I have for several years been thinking about start a trade school and getting old school tradesmen to actually teach people a trade.  Its just so hard to compete with the diploma mills.  why spend 4 or 5 years learning when you can have the same piece of paper in 18 months.   won't mean the same, but no one seems to care these days.   
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