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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 11:16:28 AM »
Ok. I see where I went wrong. I was reading ar as in ar-15. She is attempting to use "ar" as a catch all for any semi auto rifle. This is a very poorly worded bill.
I believe the use of the the language is intentional. People focus on the list as 150 specific guns banned.  However, the language used says the ban is on ALL AK, AR, AR/AK pistols, Uzi & Thompsons.  Also look at this sample of the detailed list below:

* DoubleStar AR rifles
* DPMS Tactical Rifles
* Heckler & Koch MR556
* Olympic Arms
* Remington R–15 rifles
* Rock River Arms LAR–15
* Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles
* Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles
* Stag Arms AR rifles
* Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;

Now, reread DiFi's list and you tell me how many guns is she trying to ban?
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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 12:17:37 PM »
I believe the use of the the language is intentional. People focus on the list as 150 specific guns banned.  However, the language used says the ban is on ALL AK, AR, AR/AK pistols, Uzi & Thompsons.  Also look at this sample of the detailed list below:

* DoubleStar AR rifles
* DPMS Tactical Rifles
* Heckler & Koch MR556
* Olympic Arms
* Remington R–15 rifles
* Rock River Arms LAR–15
* Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles
* Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles
* Stag Arms AR rifles
* Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;

Now, reread DiFi's list and you tell me how many guns is she trying to ban?

Shes trying to ban almost all semiautos. Found this on the NRA site. I"m starting to believe the list is smoke and mirrors.

•Ban the sale, transfer, manufacture or importation of 157 named firearms. Presumably, these were chosen by looking at pictures, as Sen. Feinstein has said she did before introducing her first legislation on the issue in 1993.


•Ban all semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine.  This is because the bill would ban any semi-automatic detachable-magazine rifle that has even one "feature," particularly a pistol grip—which is defined to include any "characteristic that can function as a grip." Other features that would cause a rifle to be banned include a forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or (as an absurd propaganda move) rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or a threaded barrel.


•Ban all detachable-magazine semi-auto pistols that have any of the following: a threaded barrel, second pistol grip, or magazine that mounts anywhere other than the grip. The bill would also ban any handgun that is a semi-automatic version of a fully automatic handgun.


•Ban all semi-automatic rifles and handguns that have fixed magazines that accept more then 10 rounds.


•Ban all semi-automatic shotguns that have just one of the following: a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; a pistol grip; a fixed magazine that can accept more than five rounds, a detachable magazine; a forward grip; a revolving cylinder; or a grenade or rocket launcher. As with the rifle provision, this could potentially ban any semi-auto shotgun, because all of them have "characteristics that can function as a grip." And of course, countless Americans have pistol-grip shotguns for home defense.


•Ban all belt-fed semi-automatic firearms, such as semi-auto replicas of historic machine guns.


•Ban all frames or receivers of banned guns, even though in many cases they are identical to the frames and receivers of guns that would not be banned.


•Ban "combinations of parts" from which "assault weapons" can be assembled. Read broadly, this could ban the acquisition of a single spare part that could be combined with parts you already own.


•Ban any "part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle"--a vague definition that could ban items such as competition trigger parts.


•Ban the sale or transfer of all ammunition feeding devices that hold more than ten rounds. Even those lawfully possessed before passage of the bill could never be transferred, even to your heirs through a will.



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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 08:13:45 PM »
Truth is....Fiendstein (intentionally misspelled) wants to ban all guns. 

Period.

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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 08:58:11 PM »
Truth is....Fiendstein (intentionally misspelled) wants to ban all guns. 

Period.



From my reply to her list over on RTKBA

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The bottom line is that we must not loose site of their final goal:

Zero firearms in the hands of American subjects!

This is a bad day for me to be contributing on this.  Vietnam on History Channel, Patriot was on earlier, and Braveheart is also on this afternoon.  Too many reminders of what happens when we forget history!
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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 09:40:00 PM »
She has had a ccw for 35+ years... In a county where you can't get one.
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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 10:38:55 PM »
Some pigs are more equal than others.

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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2013, 08:55:02 AM »
I know I keep hitting on this, but this is a very important fact in gun ban legislation.  Here is an illustrated selection for you to ponder when it comes to stocks.  Keep in mind that on the list of banned items are pistol grips, and pistol grips are defined as a grip that protrudes and is pronounced.

We know they want these pistol grip and thumbhole stocks banned:







But what about these pronounced grips that are correctly named "pistol grip" in firearm nomenclature"





The people, like Mrs. Feinstein, who are introducing this legislation may be ignorant concerning guns and their nomenclature, but those behind the movement are not.  This is where it is so important to remember that proper names are important.  We can not let them slip by crap by not paying attention to the names and words used.  Last week following Jessie Duff's demonstration on Sean Hannity's show someone blasted her for her pointing out the pistol grip.  It is true that the grip added to the forestock is often called a "forward grip", but in true definition it is a "pistol grip."

Like all legislation passed, the devil is in the details.  Think about each item named and what it really is.  Think about each firearm on the banned list and how it translates to other firearms.  Think about the exempted list and how it conflicts with the banned list or list of banned items.  These bills are not near as much about the actual upfront control and bans as they are about the cracks they create for future expansion and destruction.
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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2013, 12:28:58 PM »
I need someone to 'photoshop' an AR with a Winchester 94 stock, no pistol grip, and 3 magazine wells all holding a 10rnd magazine and feeding

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Re: Here Are The Guns Dianne Feinstein Wants To Ban
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2013, 08:56:31 AM »
Semi auto belt feds are on the list? You've got to be kidding me? When was the last time a .50 BMG was used in a criminal act? Let alone a belt fed, semi auto "Ma Deuce"? All control. Nothing to do with guns. This proves it beyond a doubt.

 

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