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FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:31:14 PM »
Video is a few weeks old.

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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/florida-deputy-threatens-to-shoot.html





After the threat, the deputy arrests the guy for exposing the gun. The ensuing argument can be heard after he puts the guy in the car.


Sounds like this is all too common in the sunshine state.
http://floridacarry.org/flcinews/54-florida-gun-owners-still-face-arrest-and-prosecution-for-innocent-exposure-of-handguns
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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 08:36:23 PM »
FL has passed a more "generous" accidental brandishing law in 2012. However, due to the massive influx of North Eastern residents to Florida (again),...that bring their liberal asshat mentality, local LEO Dept.'s can vary county to county.

With 1 Million CCW holders, the metro areas that are "blue" like Palm Beach, Tampa, Orlando, etc,..have lib LEO's and Deputies.

Northern and Central rural FL counties like Putnam have already joined the other Sheriff's across the country in open defiance of any Fed. unconstitutional gun law.

Damn shame. I was born here, and left when I was 18 in 1986. Different time back than....but transplants can do that for a state.

Just like parts of my second home in North Carolina for over 20 years.....Same damn thing....

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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 11:38:35 PM »
The lesson I take away from this is... don't make mistakes that will draw the attention of the police.  This citizen was stopped because of an expired registration.  When we carry, we should pay extra attention to simple stuff like signaling turns and lane changes, coming to a complete stop when required, making sure our safety inspections and registrations are current, always wearing seat belts, and watching our speed.  I would much rather avoid a situation like this than have to deal with an unpredictable, over zealous police officer.


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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 12:44:11 AM »
The lesson I take away from this is... don't make mistakes that will draw the attention of the police.  This citizen was stopped because of an expired registration.  When we carry, we should pay extra attention to simple stuff like signaling turns and lane changes, coming to a complete stop when required, making sure our safety inspections and registrations are current, always wearing seat belts, and watching our speed.  I would much rather avoid a situation like this than have to deal with an unpredictable, over zealous police officer.


Yup. I tried to pound this into my students heads in my Con law classes. I called it the "one crime at a time rule". If you have a trunk full of weed, don't speed. If there's an illegal handgun, don't drive drunk, etc.. Now CCW is legal, but no good will come of drawing attention to yourself while carrying. A mall ninja who is badge heavy is not out friend. Obey all traffic laws, stay sober and correct and avoid any contact with them. Everyone will be happier.

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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 07:50:26 AM »
Florida's accidental exposure law allows for the unintentional and momentary display of a weapon.  If you watch the video, that is precisely what happened.  The dude's shirt-tail flipped up as he was reaching for his wallet.

The cop's take on this was that it was a lengthy and intentional display.

The prosecution decided not to go forward because they determined they would be unable to gain a conviction, given the video evidence.

According to TV news last night, the officer involved remains on administrative leave.

IMHO, he should leave his badge and weapon with the duty sergeant and be immediately placed in the unemployment line.

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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 10:17:04 AM »
Ohio is an open carry state (like they all should be) but I choose to carry concealed for daily carry.

I on a couple of instances I have inadvertently had my concealed weapon exposed.

The way I see it is that if it is concealed, I am exercising my right to concealed carry (permit required) but if it inadvertently becomes exposed, I am exercising my right to open carry. 

Any place where this is not the case needs to be fixed. 

Any place that requires a permit to concealed carry needs to be fixed too. ...we will work on it.
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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 10:22:23 AM »
So, I take it Fla does not consider "criminal threatening with a fire arm" to be a crime if a cop does it ?
Most other places it's a low end felony.

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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 06:13:45 PM »
So, I take it Fla does not consider "criminal threatening with a fire arm" to be a crime if a cop does it ?
Most other places it's a low end felony.
Good point.  LEOs are civilians too after all.
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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 12:33:56 PM »
Anyone know if this clown is being prosecuted for threatening the guy?
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Re: FL Deputy Threatens to shoot CCW Holder in the Back
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 12:50:14 AM »
Couple of points here. Even though I don't have to have a permit, I got one. Any time I am pulled over my point will be to hand over my D.L, registration , insurance AND CCW. I will keep my hands in plain view and NOT get out unless asked by the officer. I know my officers have no issues with people who carry a gun legally. But I really hate it when I see one on someone and they have not told me they were armed. Most likely would not arrest them but we are gonna have a discussion about how to do things.
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