SAF Staff Helped Write Background Check Bill

[PegLeg45]

Got this video from Georgia Gun Owners, Inc. saying Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amenment Foundation and his staff helped write the Manchin-Tommey expanded federal background check bill.

I don't know if that is good or bad........

Here is what Gottlieb has to say:

This is a quote from Gottlieb:

“Unfortunately some of my colleagues haven’t quite figured it out yet because they weren’t standing in the room writing it. My staff was. I’ll be perfectly candid about it. This will probably break on Monday in the Wall Street Journal. “

[1Buckshot]

I did not read this on Toomey's  post of the Background bill. With the things Alan brought up that are in the bill makes me want to look at it more closely. Alan seems always to look at the big picture, trade a little to get a lot back. Just a thought but worth a look.

[tombogan03884]

Universal background checks are nothing but a backdoor to registration, and confiscation, I don't care WHO wrote the bill .

[Solus]

Universal background checks are nothing but a backdoor to registration, and confiscation, I don't care WHO wrote the bill .

Not if your name/ID  never leave the local FFL where you are acquiring the firearm.

[tombogan03884]

It can't be enforced with out registration .
How can they charge you with not going through a background check unless they know who last owned the gun ?
Which means it has to have been registered.

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[alfsauve]

I haven't read the bill, but I'm will to bet dollars to donuts that the CCW exemption for a NICS is gone.

The whole thing is about control and being in a position so that if confiscation is decreed later on, the government has all the info they need.

[JLawson]

For those who have not read it yet:

Thursday, Apr 11

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) tonight posted the bill text of The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act that he and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) introduced yesterday.

The full text of The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act is available below:

http://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=968

[kmitch200]

It can't be enforced with out registration .
How can they charge you with not going through a background check unless they know who last owned the gun ?
Which means it has to have been registered.

Nobody said it has to work as intended.

SEC. 103. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.
Nothing in this title, or any amendment made by this title, shall be construed to-
(1) expand in any way the enforcement authority or jurisdiction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives; or
(2) allow the establishment, directly or indirectly, of a Federal firearms registry.

To quote Napoleon: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

I haven't read the bill, but I'm will to bet dollars to donuts that the CCW exemption for a NICS is gone.

I'm not sure...

"(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if-
"(A) the transfer is made after a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s), and upon taking possession of the firearm, the licensee-
"(i) complies with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the licensee's business inventory to the unlicensed transferee, except that when processing a transfer under this chapter the licensee may accept in lieu of conducting a background check a valid permit issued within the previous 5 years by a State, or a political subdivision of a State, that allows the transferee to possess, acquire, or carry a firearm, if the law of the State, or political subdivision of a State, that issued the permit requires that such permit is issued only after an authorized government official has verified that the information available to such official does not indicate that possession of a firearm by the unlicensed transferee would be in violation of Federal, State, or local law;

[fatbaldguy]

May issue is the problem.  BATFE pressure on licensee's will mean all purchases/transfers will go through NICS.  Bound books are available to BATFE all the time.  No notice required.  Without having read the text of the bill, this is backdoor registration.  Contact your Senator/s.

Contact your reps in the house.  Have them shoot it down.  Make it crash and burn.  Make 'em have to sift the ashes to find any remnant of this POS legislation.

EDIT:  Upon further review, this does not appear to be a POS legislation after all.  I am wrong.  Hearing what Gottlieb had to say, plus a cursory  reading of the text of the legislation, leads me to believe that our side may be able to get over on the anti's with this one.  I especially like having this over-ride local and state legislation when conveying a firearm in a motor vehicle.

[1Buckshot]

Amazing how the light turns on  when someone actually reads the text before making a comment on it. It's the people on the far side of arguments (Right or Left) that refuse to See and Hear before they make a statements.